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Thread: Serial attacker lives in HOP or FH?
Post: RE: Serial attacker lives in HOP or FH?
| Yes, it's worrying - although you need to compare like with like, e.g. young black men with young white men, not to the whole population. Still too high though. And regardless of ethnicity, the "innoc... |
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Thread: Serial attacker lives in HOP or FH?
Post: RE: Serial attacker lives in HOP or FH?
| Michael, Michael,
You risk tying yourself up in knots here. Put down the Guardian down one second.
I think many people are uncomfortable with the state's enthusiasm for enlarging its DNA collect... |
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Thread: Serial attacker lives in HOP or FH?
Post: RE: Serial attacker lives in HOP or FH?
| Setting the perhaps slightly misplaced racial paranoia aside, I can't imagine you will find too much sympathy for "a black man in the area who commits a crime" in so much that he is "now far more like... |
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Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Train service to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oa...
| I think there's a distinction to be drawn there and that that's not a case of "me, me, me" as running trains along "your" line doesn't have that much of an impact on others. That was more a question o... |
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Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Train service to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oa...
| robin orton wrote:
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This sounds likes 'let's leave it to the experts, who, unlike us humble folk, can see the Big Picture.' Don't agree - we pay for the services, let's lobby for what we want... |
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28-08-2009, 04:38 PM |
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Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Train service to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oa...
| It's not really about whether or not you find it a hassle to change at London Bridge - clearly it's better to have a direct service than not - but about the bigger picture. Let's look beyond "me, me, ... |
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28-08-2009, 03:52 PM |
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Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Train service to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oa...
| I think you should focus on the improvements to rail links in the offing - ELL, potential Thameslink routings - rather than the disappearance of the direct train to Charing X. It's easy enough to chan... |
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28-08-2009, 10:00 AM |
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Thread: Bricklayer's Arms, Beckenham
Post: RE: Bricklayer's Arms, Beckenham.
| It's a pretty grotty establishment, despite the fairly respectable outside appearance and the hopes raised by the Harvey's beer.
Interesting write up on Beer in the Evening (most recent one yours I... |
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23-07-2009, 12:37 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Exact figures are readily available from Lewisham's website:
[url=http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/CouncilAndDemocracy/DemocracyAndElections/ElectionCountsAndResults/Mayor.htm]Mayoral election results[/url... |
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20-02-2009, 01:25 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| It's quite touching how many people seem to think Lewisham really is going to make provision for swimming in Forest Hill.
Face it. You've been sold down the river.
The pool closed several years ... |
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19-02-2009, 12:01 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| This is turning into a true public sector procurement spectacular, in the best of British tradition.
This has now developed from an idiotic unwillingness or inability to maintain a building, throug... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Well, I suppose that's a counterbalance to the new myth that Lewisham has been steadfast in its desire to provide decent swimming facilities on this site and has only been thwarted by a load of conser... |
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Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Train service to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oa...
| The 0821 has never run on time. It's more the train's name, like "Jimmy", than an actual indication of what time it may come. |
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Thread: Muslim customs
Post: RE: Touareg
| A vexatious one?
Nothing new though - think of the Indian Mutiny. |
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Thread: Tesco, London Road
Post: RE: Immigration raid on tesco petrol station
| I'd be less worried about them employing illegal immigrants than employing straightforward criminals who clone card details. |
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25-09-2008, 04:05 PM |
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Thread: Rail Franchise consultation
Post: RE: Rail Franchise consultation
| Take a pease pudding croissant on your way out
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[size=small](Govia is part-owned by Go-Ahead - and part by a French company)[/size][/i] |
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Thread: Louise House
Post: RE: Louise House - to list or not to list?
| Fair point. It now makes about the same sense as voting on "should Lewisham have made sure they painted the timber roof trusses at the old pool" (although it annoys me they didn't). A fait accompli, n... |
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29-08-2008, 05:44 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Sir Bullock now isn't it?
I normally write it as a plural and/or put an asterisk in place of the "u" but the Administrator spares you all from my childish rudeness. |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| [quote="nevermodern"]But they haven't *just* dismissed the option of refurbishment. They went for it, and then [b]a survey found it wasn't possible[/b].[/quote]
[i]But it didn't[/i]. You appear to ... |
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29-08-2008, 02:00 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| It is Lewisham that I think could be accused of riding roughshod.
I agree that an appeal is a reasonable use of process but there is a potential irony in pursuing that route in the hope that it wil... |
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28-08-2008, 04:09 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Actually, given the point on the amazing collapsing roofs it is clear that the best solution for Lewisham is actually a LIDO. When Frank Spencer seems to be their collective role model it's about all ... |
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28-08-2008, 02:42 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Brian, your faith in the integrity of politicians is touching. Perhaps now is not the time to drop the bombshell about tooth fairies and Father Christmas.
Was it residents' bickering behind the 11 ... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I forgot to add that the reason why Downham Pool closed is because... its roof collapsed.
You couldn't make it up. |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Quite. It no doubt rather suits Lewisham to stall any decisions (and hence any expenditure) as long as possible.
How long did it take from deciding a new pool was needed at Downham until opening it... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I wasn't aware that riding roughshod over responsible, accountable governance and impartial views over the local built environment was one of the aims of the 2012 Games, but thanks for your edifying c... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Central
Post: RE: Forest Hill Central
| Not really.
While I don't doubt that the would be a healthy stream of buyers if they started selling the flats at ?120,000 that's not really how the economics of house builders works.
There will... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| [quote="Londonrz"]Suburbs of London are still London. Given the high profile nature of Boris's role and with Ken popping in every five minutes I think Boris would find it difficult to favour one part ... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| [quote="ForestGump"]To me it was silly in 2005 to restrict discussion of refurb and new build to the existing footprint of the pools, when officers of the council were looking at all 3 plots. The situ... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| That's one perspective. I'd be interested in seeing the results again as from what I recall I don't think there was much in it.
From what has since transpired and the minsinformation campaign in th... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Kingfisher, it's not got much to do with the campaigners for preservation that the old pool fell to bits and that nothing has happened since.
Indeed had it not been for all the campaigning last tim... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Nevermodern: sorry I haven't made myself clear. Whilst preconditions may give them more reasons to abandon any plans, I just don't trust them. I think without any safeguards, the best case is we get s... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| On the condition that we are assured that any replacement will be of an architectural quality at least as good as the existing buildings (whether or not it incorporates them or parts of them) and that... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I bet he doesn't. There's been a pretty transparent manoeuvre to appease all parties through the pretence of pursuing the "preservation" option.
Blaming the council for their gross negligence may n... |
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Thread: Rail Franchise consultation
Post: RE: Rail Franchise consultation
| Ah yes, Southern. Owned by Govia, as English as baguettes and croissants.
Must be a different Govia to the one that runs Southeastern.:) |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I think the ire of those who are upset at the lack of swimming facilities would be best directed at the clowns at Lewisham who failed to maintain the existing building until it became unuseable, and w... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Central
Post: RE: Forest Hill Central
| I'm not sure how likely this is. Whilst they won't want to be lumbered with a half(+) empty buidling if they do finish it off but can't sell the flats, on the other hand I would have thought they woul... |
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Thread: Estate agent signs - FYI
Post: RE: Estate agent signs - FYI
| I think "frightened" may have been the emotion.
Well done, though. |
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Thread: Love Your Local
Post: RE: Love Your Local
| All the more reason to produce an "undesired" result by voting for somewhere that doesn't stock it. If you can find one - it's pretty ubiquitous. |
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Thread: Loud party noise
Post: RE: Loud party noise
| Greengoddess, why would anyone be particularly interested or make particular assumptions about the colour of the youths? It's hardly as if any group has a monoploy on antisocial behaviour.
What 1% ... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Stuff the UDP (or whatever it's called now - believe they've changed the terminology). What's that given us? The last thing I saw was the rejection of change of use to a restaurant because that caused... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| This idea can also save money as there will be no need to spend money demolishing the pool and Louise House, and it will be easier to build on the car park, which is a "cleaner" site with more space a... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I think the council could control that through the planning process, though. It could also sell only to parties who undertook to preserve parts or all of the existing buildings.
As far as I know th... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| In fact, we have just found the solution.
- Sell the old properties for conversion and onward sale to people who will appreciate them, thus preserving the streetscape.
- Construct a new purpose... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I'm interested to see that the council thinks Louise House is only worth ?169,000.
In that case, I'd be very happy to buy it from them any time they like for ?170,000 and will convert it to a befit... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Question is, is it genuinely redundant?
There doesn't seem to have been all that much honesty on this aspect.
It's also a slightly curious approach that some more recent posters are taking. Do a... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Indeed.
It cost ?32 million, had to close for four years and then had a further ?13 million spent on it before it re-opened last year.
It was supposed to open in 1999 and cost ?7 million. |
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Thread: Any tattoo'ed amongst us?
Post: RE: Any tattoo'ed amongst us?
| Contradiction in terms.
Women are quite entitled to, though. |
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Thread: Any tattoo'ed amongst us?
Post: RE: Any tattoo'ed amongst us?
| Apart from the fact that you have just gone and tagged yourself?
I always think it's interesting how there is the theme among decorated sorts that it somehow makes them "different", unique, individ... |
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