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  Thread: Forest Hill Rail Station
Post: RE: Ticket Barriers and Gates at FH Station

The first meeting will be FH at 5.30; then 6pm at Sydenham.
nasaroc SE23 Topics 761 706,268 16-07-2008, 09:19 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Train service to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oa...

Getting back from the West End to FH in the late evening isn't going to be more difficult just because of the proposed axing of Charing Cross services. Southern also propose cutting off peak services ...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,265 28-08-2009, 12:21 AM
  Thread: Save Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Save Forest Hill Pools

Yes - and if the report is correct that Lewisham are going for 'total demolition' what are we likely to get in place of this panorama? There is a very great chance that we'll end up with some unima...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 62 67,341 18-03-2008, 02:05 PM
  Thread: Nice roads on the east side of the tracks?
Post: RE: Nice roads on the east side of the tracks?

What a beautiful dog1 Is s/he a husky?
nasaroc SE23 Topics 28 27,131 28-03-2008, 07:40 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Rail Station
Post: RE: Access to Forest Hill station

Michael - Perhaps I've missed something but isn't all that's being promised by Southern is that they may place the gate at the base of the steps rather than at the platform exit. The key point surely ...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 761 706,268 19-04-2008, 08:47 AM
  Thread: Perry Vale - Road Issues
Post: RE: Perry Vale road closures

If you look at the PDF at the link below you will be able to see more details of what is proposed. Nutfield - You are correct in saying that the bend will be "smoothed out" as part of the works. Bu...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 348 293,738 26-05-2008, 11:08 AM
  Thread: Anyone know about local planning permission in the area.
Post: RE: Anyone know about local planning permission in...

Looking at Lewisham?s online list of planning applications I can see that the developer, having got permission for conversion into five flats, came back for a second bite and got a further permission ...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 28 33,140 22-01-2008, 07:31 PM
  Thread: Anyone know about local planning permission in the area.
Post: RE: Anyone know about local planning permission in...

In my experience (I'm Chair of the Sydenham Society's conservation and planning committee) a conversion such as the one that was going on at Church Rise should have had planning permission before the ...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 28 33,140 23-01-2008, 10:35 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Rail Station
Post: RE: Access to Forest Hill station

From Barry Milton of the Sydenham Society: Ambient - I wish you were correct but I am certain that the material in the car park is nothing to do with opening up the station. Michael and I met wi...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 761 706,268 16-03-2008, 02:04 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Rail Station
Post: RE: Access to Forest Hill station

The FH and Sydenham Societies are working together on a campaign to make sure that all of our station entrances are kept open. It always seems that things have gone quiet when nothing appears on l...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 761 706,268 03-05-2008, 06:51 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I note from the stakeholder's meeting report that each of the options also includes a cafe. What about Provender which has served Forest Hill and Dartmouth Rd so well over the years - why do they have...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,390 23-06-2008, 07:03 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Just to confirm that link again. It should be: http://www.gopetition.com/online/19745.html
nasaroc SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,390 23-06-2008, 07:30 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Campaigners supporting the retention of the Victorian buildings gathered approximately 120 signatures at the Havelock Walk Open Studios at the weekend - in just 2 1-hour stints. To sign the same petit...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,390 01-07-2008, 12:16 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Rail Station
Post: RE: Ticket Barriers and Gates at FH Station

I have talked to the Mayor's office. They have just received confirmation that Peter Field, Director of Strategy, TfL and John Oliver, Acting Commercial Director, Southern Rail will attend the mee...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 761 706,268 16-07-2008, 04:53 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Rail Station
Post: RE: Access to Forest Hill station

I am sure you'll be interested in a copy email I received this morning from a passenger to Southern. The sender has agreed that this can be posted although I have deleted her name. Southern are har...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 761 706,268 15-05-2008, 12:03 PM
  Thread: Plans to do up Forest Hill
Post: RE: Plans to do up Forest Hill

Blushing Snail is right - the Sydenham Road Improvement Scheme which is currently out for consultation has its roots in an urban design initiative worked up by the Sydenham Society called the Sydenham...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 20 24,125 19-05-2008, 10:04 AM
  Thread: Perry Vale - Road Issues
Post: RE: Perry Vale road closures

Perryman - Both sides of FH need to be reunited but achieving step-free access via the underpass as you describe above is impossible. Perry Vale would need to be lowered by at least 3-4ft to make i...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 348 293,738 25-05-2008, 11:55 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Rail Station
Post: RE: Ticket Barriers and Gates at FH Station

This has got to be one of the most badly written press releases of all time. All it seems to be saying is that TFL want to renegotiate the existing supplier contract - or award it to someone else ...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 761 706,268 08-08-2008, 04:21 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

So when and how did they consult their members?
nasaroc SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,390 25-08-2008, 07:05 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Thanks for this clarification So will you support a consultation putting both sides of the question?
nasaroc SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,390 05-09-2008, 09:57 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Agree entirely - we need to see what can be built with or without the pools frontage. As Michael puts it we need to see "the context" of each position. But given that each position has a "context" ...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,390 05-09-2008, 11:27 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

That [b]is[/b] the case David. The proposal to make Dartmouth Road into a conservation area was reported in the last issue of the FH Society Newsletter. The plan is well developed and has been shown t...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,390 05-09-2008, 05:44 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Rail Station
Post: RE: Ticket Barriers at FH Station

Michael - I'm disturbed to hear that the gates on platform 2 appear to be locked in the evening after 8pm. The same thing is happening at Sydenham station where the gate on the up platform is now lock...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 761 706,268 18-06-2008, 10:33 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Yes - but the crucial part of the petition says: "which considers a number of designs and layouts". There will be ONE design. That design has already been decided by LBL - read the notes above - an...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,390 24-06-2008, 11:14 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I think the last two postings sum up where we stand: LBL intend to knock down the existing buildings and set up a sham "consultation" in which locals are clearly expected to vote for Option 2 with no ...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,390 25-06-2008, 10:00 AM
  Thread: Perry Vale - Road Issues
Post: RE: Changes to Perry Vale

Here is a very recent posting on the Sydenham Town Forum which indicates that the subway will closed and the more startling news that Perry Vale refurbishments are to be suspended: --------------...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 348 293,738 27-06-2008, 11:10 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Town Centre Management
Post: RE: Provender To Close

Agree with you entirely Elise. It's by doing hundreds of small things well - cleaning the streets, marketing properties, ensuring parking arrangements are adequate, "greening" strategies etc that will...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 56 42,428 31-10-2008, 11:08 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Town Centre Management
Post: RE: Provender To Close

Alex - Thanks for posting the link to JS's website. But this doesn't answer the question. What is the Town Centre Manager's strategy for improvement? Surely local politicians must have sat dow...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 56 42,428 31-10-2008, 11:26 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Central
Post: RE: Forest Hill Central

So Michael are you saying that you believe that when BH complete these flats - presumably some time in 2009 - they will be offering the flats for sale, and at very much reduced prices? What do you be...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 289 274,046 11-12-2008, 02:31 PM
  Thread: Mayow Park
Post: RE: Mayow Park

Many thanks for keeping this issue "live" Michael. A large leaflet drop of the area around the park is currently taking place - Perry Hill and Perry Rise, for example, have been leafleted in the la...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 121 129,602 21-01-2009, 04:26 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

The situation as far as the pools are concerned is as follows: 1. There will be a "consultation" which excludes the option of retaining the existing buildings or their facades. Clearly, retention o...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,390 10-07-2008, 10:58 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Central
Post: RE: Forest Hill Central

Comparing one block of wildly overpriced apartments (Vantage Heights) with another block of wildly overpriced apartments (FH Central) serves little purpose. Neither will sell at current asking prices....
nasaroc SE23 Topics 289 274,046 18-08-2008, 11:42 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Central
Post: RE: Forest Hill Central

Berkeley Homes could, of course, reduce the asking price for each flat down to the average price of comparable flats in SE23. This would require a drop of ?80-?100,000 in each unit meaning a loss of p...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 289 274,046 27-08-2008, 10:24 AM
  Thread: Louise House
Post: RE: Louise House - to list or not to list?

I have to say that this vote seems crazy. It's very much like voting on what the weather is going to be like tomorrow. We simply don't have any control over the end result whatever we may think indivi...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 130 154,198 29-08-2008, 04:53 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Central
Post: RE: Forest Hill Central

Agree with all of the views expressing doubt as to how these units are going to be sellable even at a 25% discount. Snazy - these aren't "prime units". If they were, why were only four flats sold...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 289 274,046 22-01-2009, 11:47 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Max - I think you are in severe danger of dominating this discussion to such an extent that others simply aren't getting their voices heard. Option 1 has NO subsidy from Willow Way - I've just chec...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,390 10-02-2009, 11:37 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Central
Post: RE: Forest Hill Central

Sherwood - surely you should have asked what type of hallucinatory drugs the Scotchbrook manager was on!! Of course many elderly people want to downsize. But the ones described by the Scotchbrook m...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 289 274,046 31-08-2008, 11:35 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Michael - can you just clarify your position please. You appear to be arguing that the pools frontage block should be pulled down. Is this now official FH Society policy? Up to know, the FHS had a ...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,390 05-09-2008, 09:13 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I think that listing was the final outcome of "Demolition without Democracy". I fully believe (no, I know) that listing would not have taken place if the retention of Louise House and the pools fronta...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,390 05-09-2008, 10:42 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Both sides can state and restate their positions on this issue in public and on this forum - and I am sure they will! But let's now proceed to a mechanism that will bring facilities to this site as so...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,390 07-09-2008, 12:28 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Rail Station
Post: RE: Forest Hill Rail Station

But this is totally contrary to the commitments made by Southern to local passsengers, to the FH and Sydenham Societies and to Lewisham's Mayor. That commitment at FH was to open the gate until TfL to...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 761 706,268 20-02-2009, 04:22 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I've spoken to a number of the owners of businesses along Dartmouth Road who are absolutely livid about the possibility that swimming is to be moved out of FH. Thery are keen to be involved with a ...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,390 04-03-2009, 10:32 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

There isn't going to be a challenge to the listing of LH - and there never was. The listing could only be challenged by the owners (LBL) who indicated at the time that they had no wish to do so. The t...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,390 04-03-2009, 02:13 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

The officer's report to the Mayor and Cabinet is very specific about the way forward: [i]It is proposed to commission feasibility work to examine how a two pool option could be delivered taking int...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,390 11-09-2008, 11:08 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Totally agree with an architectural competition - and wonder why LBL didn't do this in the first place? I went to a meeting about the redevelopment of Camberwell Baths a few nights ago to see how t...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,390 11-09-2008, 11:39 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Interesting news item today about the rebuilding of the Weston super Mare's pier which was destroyed by fire two months ago. Only eight weeks after the blaze a shortlist of designs has been selecte...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,390 30-09-2008, 11:32 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Town Centre Management
Post: RE: Provender To Close

Dave - Of course it's useful to blame those dreadful amenity societies but you were a councillor in this area for very many years (and a member of the LBL cabinet) so why didn't you try to put such a ...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 56 42,428 30-10-2008, 12:51 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

It's been good enough to get almost 3,000 people to sign the petition to date. Of course, the real test will come when the consultation result is known. I feel very strongly that people will opt fo...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,390 23-03-2009, 11:50 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Rail Station
Post: RE: Forest Hill Station

Michael I understand from Southern that the new gates at FH and Sydenham will not be constructed until just before the introduction of Oyster PAYG on the line. This is now scheduled for September ...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 761 706,268 18-11-2008, 10:43 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Rail Station
Post: RE: Forest Hill Station

The intention is not to staff the new gate "from 6am to midnight" - and never was - and we shouldn't realistically expect TfL to do so. This is "a remote self-contained ticket gate" which is desig...
nasaroc SE23 Topics 761 706,268 18-11-2008, 01:35 PM
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