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Perry Vale - Road Issues
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Holly


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Post: #261
16-10-2008 11:32 PM

I didn't even realise that there was a car park round that way, but i don't stop around there so probably wouldn't. Is it the space next to the taxi office where they sell christmas trees at christmas? Did see all the cars parked on the pavement, there was hardly enough room for one car to go down that road, definitely not room for two. Its a shame that on the first day it is already reverting back to bad habits.Unsure

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davey2


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Post: #262
17-10-2008 08:35 AM

yeah they do tend to sell the christmas trees in that yard next to the cab office.
i use to get a real tree till my dog started thinking it had a indoor loo Laugh
so went back to the plastic ones after that.

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Snazy


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Post: #263
17-10-2008 12:48 PM

OK time to get writing then I guess. Dont see why tax payers should have to pay for lazy cab driver though Sad
Not seen them doing it first hand yet, but guess I soon will.

The car park is opposite the pub just by the bus stop after the subway, big car park too, so I agree i dont know why they cant just use the thing.

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brian


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Post: #264
17-10-2008 01:30 PM

Perhaps we ought to ask the councillors to ensure wardens come round often
Am I correct double yellow means NO parking at any time. Would have been better to put RED line instead.
I know our councillors read this site as they must be anoyed at the behaviour of the drivers after all our moeny has been spent on the new pavement

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Baboonery


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Post: #265
17-10-2008 01:36 PM

Is the 356 re-established on its normal route?

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brian


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Post: #266
17-10-2008 01:53 PM

Yes , I saw one yesterday passing Pub

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davidl


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Post: #267
17-10-2008 02:06 PM

Have a look at the attached for a couple of cars parked on the pavement first thing this morning. It was my understanding that you're not allowed to drive across any pavement where the kerb has not been dropped - the question here is about enforcement.

Is this one for the council or the police?

As for rush-hour bottlenecks, I just despair when I see the lack of consideration people (be it cab drivers, people picking train travellers up or just some of the folks passing through) display to one another.



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jon14


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Post: #268
17-10-2008 02:16 PM

davidl wrote:
Have a look at the attached for a couple of cars parked on the pavement first thing this morning. It was my understanding that you're not allowed to drive across any pavement where the kerb has not been dropped - the question here is about enforcement.


Interestingly enough, it wasn't long ago that BarCar was on here saying that the council allow parking on the pavement on his road, but refused to drop the kerb. So it isn't quite as simple as that.

That's not to say those cars are right - they're probably not.

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Holly


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Post: #269
17-10-2008 02:27 PM

Last night when i walked past there were at least 15 cars on the kerb parked either side. According to the signs they are not allowed to park between 7 in the morning and 7 at night therefore when i walked past at around 10pm they were doing no wrong, didn't look good though.

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davey2


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Post: #270
17-10-2008 02:39 PM

full lewisham blah blah on parking can be found here with contact email and form to fill in if you like.
http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/TransportAndS...wLines.htm

they really do need to stop parking at anytime in that area now.

yes the pavement did need to be wider then it use to be, but now we have a traffic flow problem and something lewisham need to address before more people find out the road is now fully reopen.

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Snazy


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Post: #271
17-10-2008 02:42 PM

In fairness though, cars have been parking outside of these buildings for years now, and given that shops can use a certain amount of pavement space for goods anyway, I personally dont think that they are doing "too much" harm. However would be interesting to know the legal standing.
And if it be wrong, then the cafe on Westbourne may also have to answer the same issue.

However, the pavement further up the road, adjacent to the subway is where its at for me. Im yet to see anyone stopping on the newly narrowed part of the roadway by the subway.

Holly, where about were they parked, on the newly re-opened section?

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davey2


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Post: #272
17-10-2008 02:44 PM

was going to edit my post can't find the edit button.

the answer is simple, double red lines supported by cctv cams that give out auto pcn the moment someone so much as stops.

lewisham gain money and the traffic flow problem should improve.
even local business can't moan about that if the carpark is a stones throw away.

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brian


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Post: #273
17-10-2008 02:48 PM

Yes sounds good. We should all e mail local concillors to get red lines in soonest

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Snazy


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17-10-2008 02:49 PM

I agree with you Davey. In theory the issue has been addressed by the placing of the double yellows, but it looks like more will need to be done.

The cab office has a yard, AND a car park locally, yet the drivers since the road closed ( and I guess for some time before) have decided to claim Perry Vale as their right of way.

Needs to be sorted asap. Personally I would rather see it being a revenue raiser than spender, with the use of PCN's being issued, either by hand or camera.
Rather than having to spend thousands on posts stopping them mounting the pavement, which will prob only cause them to park on the road and block even more traffic.

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Snazy


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17-10-2008 02:52 PM

Same idea moments apart there Davey Thumbsup
Not usually one to make such suggestions, as in a lot of cases parking is pretty unfair and limited, however in this case I have to agree.

There is a perfectly good car park next to the station if people want to pick up or drop off without joining the South Circ (which is understandable)

There is plenty of parking outside the cab office for 1-2 cabs to wait in a taxi rank style system to pick up fares from the office itself.

No excuses.... SORT IT!

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Baboonery


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Post: #276
17-10-2008 03:05 PM

Given that local businesses moan like crazy that 99.9% of their turnover disappeared when red lines were put in at one of the worse bottlenecks on the whole of the London road network, I think there are probably greater priorities than Perry Vale, as annoying as it undeoubtedly is.

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michael


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Post: #277
17-10-2008 03:11 PM

Red Routes are run by TfL not by Lewisham. I see no reason why Perry Vale should be transferred to TfL as it is not a priority route. Hopefully people can just respect double yellows. I few traffic wardens patrolling the area should quickly clear up problems of people who have formed a habit of illegally parking here while the road was shut.

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Snazy


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Post: #278
17-10-2008 03:17 PM

yup I would support that idea Michael, and would indeed hope that revenue would not need to be wasted on preventing selfish people being so lazy.

Good point about the running of the red routes too Smile

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brian


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Post: #279
17-10-2008 03:30 PM

I agree but wardens also should book people who stop briefly to pick up or drop down people for station.
Parking on the pavement , even for a minuite , should be penalised to the maximum.

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davey2


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Post: #280
17-10-2008 05:29 PM

I would welcome anything that stops the parking.
before long i can see me driving the bullbar of my little old vitara right up some cab drivers backside.

tomorrow will be the test of my temper i guess , if the crystal bar i think its called the crystal bar hold one of its weddings its going to be 100% murder in perry vale.

if you hear on the local news tomorrow night that someone is in hopistal having a bullbar removed you know who done it Wink

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