Is it that chap in a mitsubishi evo again Londonerz?

My point is simple, if traffic management officials make driving difficult, people try to get around it. That is guaranteed. It's human nature. If the whole world and his dog are funnelled onto the south circular (now owned by NCP) and before they have the pleasure of sitting in that queue they have to sit in one at HOR watching the pretty red lights then they are going to get frustrated.

The last thing they should do is introduce a crossing for dawdling nusiance pedestrians with their bags stuffed full of chicken nuggets and cheap booze from the petrol station. That will just add to the horror. It would be about as welcome as a permanent set windscreen cleaners pouncing on us at the junction.

What amazes me is that some folks sit in their cars for hours patiently waiting for the lights to change how ridiculous is that!?!