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Bakerloo Line Extension
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Sherwood


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Post: #21
02-04-2013 11:36 AM

I was proposing it in addition to the existing Hayes to London Bridge, Cannon Street & Charing Cross trains. Only 4 an hour at times . Spare capacity, I think. Trains can bypass Lewisham going directly to Ladywell.

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lacb


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Post: #22
02-04-2013 11:41 AM

Ok, that would work to extend the Overground. How does that help a Bakerloo extension?

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Sherwood


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Post: #23
02-04-2013 12:30 PM

Obviously, nothing to help the Bakerloo extension. However, as it sems to be a relatively cheap and easy fix, it is much more likely to happen.

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lacb


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Post: #24
02-04-2013 12:43 PM

Yes but what are you fixing? It would actually make the Bakerloo extension less likely!

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Sherwood


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02-04-2013 01:17 PM

Just trying to get a more frequent service from Catford Bridge. Also it could divert passengers from London Bridge.

I think you will have a long wait for the Bakerloo line extension!l

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lacb


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Post: #26
02-04-2013 03:22 PM

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I think you will have a long wait for the Bakerloo line extension!


Very probably given the wait so far. However, Crossrail is happening and on a budget many times what a Bakerloo extension is likely to cost. All that is needed now is political will rather than yet more tinkering.

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Sherwood


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02-04-2013 04:08 PM

Forgive me for being cynical. But Crossrail benefits residents of leafy western areas and not south-east London. Historically, there has been a reluctance to tunnel in south-east London.

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lacb


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02-04-2013 05:04 PM

Forgiven. I understand these points but I think repeating them, and using them to justify less useful changes, just reinforces the political prejudice. We want progress - time to be positive!

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Sherwood


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Post: #29
03-04-2013 07:58 AM

Then we should go for both options. ELL extended to Hayes and Bakerloo underground extended to wherever.

(The lines from New Cross may be too congested for the ELL extension, particularly as Thameslink is going through there.)

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Sherwood


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03-04-2013 01:39 PM

Bakerloo line extension "closer than ever" says council leader.
Dated 1 April 2013, hopefully not an April fool joke!

Both Boris Johnson and the leader of Southwark Council have this week made positive statements about the prospect of an extension of the Bakerloo line beyond Elephant & Castle.

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Sherwood


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04-04-2013 09:13 AM

Lewisham Council also have a desire to extend the DLR from lewisham to Catford preferably through a tunnel.

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Man On The Top_Deck


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14-09-2013 01:44 PM

DLR tunnel from Lewisham heading south in the general direction of Catford makes the first stop Lewisham shopping centre or perhaps the name 'Lewisham - Riverdale' might work.

If anyone out there remembers the location of 'Ponti's' coffee cafe (now amazingly a vacant site) in the dead centre, right in front of the entrance to Sainsbury's and hard by the lifts, that would probably be the planners most favoured spot.

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Man On The Top_Deck


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16-09-2013 10:01 AM


Second thoughts maybe not 'Lewisham Riverdale' as Riverdale has since been removed from the title of the shopping centre. It is now known as 'Lewisham Shopping Centre'. Perhaps 'Lewisham Central' would be more appropriate.

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Sherwood


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Post: #34
17-09-2013 09:20 AM

Or Lewisham Police Station!

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Perryman


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17-09-2013 10:40 AM

I can't see them tunnelling under large buildings for insurance reasons.
The point of the DLR is that it can twist and turn around existing structures and routes. Not that I see much point in extending the DLR to Catford - that route is well served - unless the track is ultimately headed our way.

Lewisham is the nearest transport hub to FH, yet it can take an hour to get there by bus and there are no direct trains, so that would be a useful extension.

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Novels


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Post: #36
17-09-2013 01:52 PM

There was an article on Metro yesterday with brief mentions to future projects, and neither the Bakerloo or the DLR extensions were there...

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Sherwood


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18-09-2013 08:36 AM

Perhaps we can suggest that they scrap HS2, which NIMBIES do not want , and spend the money on the Bakerloo line extension to Forest Hill instead!

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Man On The Top_Deck


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Post: #38
18-09-2013 11:51 AM

Sherwood

AFAIK or understand the situation, and it is certainly complicated, the Bakerloo Line extension is going to be extended to Hayes (E&C-NKR-OKR-Peckham-NCG-Lewisham-CB)and the DLR Extension is to be extended from Lewisham via Catford to Forest Hill.

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lillam


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Post: #39
23-09-2013 09:27 PM

http://brockleycentral.blogspot.co.uk/20...erloo.html

QUOTE:

Mayor Boris Johnson has confirmed that he is giving serious consideration to a Bakerloo Line extension through South East London. In today's #askboris Q&A, he responded to a question about tube provision in south London:

yes, seriously looking at Bakerloo line extension #askboris @opearman
Boris Johnson (@MayorofLondon) September 23, 2013
This is the second bit of positive noise Boris has made about the idea this year. And while we understand that these utterances need to be taken with a huge dollop of salt, we've argued for a while that although the Bakerloo line is nominally lower down the priority list than the likes of Crossrail 2, it's also a relatively cheap and easy way of expanding London's transport capacity, in a way that might become appealing to our opportunistic Mayor.

While mega-projects like Crossrail and Thameslink take decades, everyone has taken note of what the relatively cheap and easy ELL upgrade achieved. The Northern Line extension to Battersea is set to do something similar. A Mayor in search of a quick win could do worse than extend the Bakerloo through Southwark to Lewisham.

With thanks to Monkeyboy.

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Sherwood


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Post: #40
25-09-2013 07:13 PM

Hopefully, the scheme will increase the frquency of trains at Catford Bridge.

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