Gingernuts, an affirmation of your racism, you started moaning about parking, when they show that can be controlled by the East London Line you start moaning about the number of people generally, calling it 'unsustainable'.

Its only unsustainable if you dislike the attendees, which you obviously did because they aren't the kind of people you want to see in Forest Hill.

Ros, the parallels you are drawing with the Blackheath event are fatuous at best;

"The Blackheath Fireworks event is a bit different; its been going for years and is mostly a family event."

So far as I could tell, the Jerk Cookout is a family event and has been going on for years. Furthermore, it doesn't involve letting off explosives for a prolonged period of time, so it's probably more family friendly and appropriate for a residential area.

This nonsense about the Horniman being in a 'residential area' is totally misleading, all public parks are in residential areas, the only alternative would be to hold it in an industrial estate or a commercial zone, neither area being particularly conducive to families enjoying barbecued food.

"Unlike the Cook Out, annual firework displays tend to be attended mainly by local people and no one venue provides anything more unique than any other so its probably not going to have to deal with huge crowds moving in from all parts of London."

People from all over the South East go to the Blackheath fireworks display, it is massively attended and causes roadblock like traffic problems across that area, the traffic is marshalled but it still causes huge disruption, have you ever actually been? Why could they not employ the same traffic marshalling techniques for the JC, improve the transport provision and encourage people like you to leave the area for the day so you can pretend you live in East Dulwich?

You have to put up with disruption from time to time, I can assure you, having lived next to a major park in Brighton for some time it isn't that bad, just go with the flow and enjoy it and you wont hate on it so much. Otherwise go out for the day and it'll all be done by the time you return.

Alternatively, ruin it for everyone in Forest Hill, get it moved to Peckham Rye or somewhere you feel black people should go and the area can continue to slowly decline economically.