Roz: Okay, fine. But this is hardly the first time you have seen a potentially salvageable situation only as utterly hopeless, is it? Last time, it turned out that where there was a will, there was eventually a way.

From reading through the recent posts, it seems that even those who unequivocally support the event, as well as many of those who have doubts, seem to have realised that there is be a need for a 'third way'. This is known as attempting to be constructive.

I can accept that you are going to continue to insist the whole thing (and anything remotely like it) be completely banned. Just accept that I will continue to refuse to see this as a zero-sum issue.

That's it. I'm out of this thing until we hear some concrete news from the Horniman or the organisers.