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  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

[quote="Penelope Jarrett"][HLM's draft] includes the basic pools plus dry leisure and a multi-purpose room, but was only one storey and the frontage seemed untidy, using up a lot of space on a small s...
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 06-06-2008, 02:12 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I thought the multi-storey leisure building was a deliberate policy ploy so that all those who despaired of the designs could throw themselves off the top ;)
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 15-07-2008, 09:55 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Here is a 'mash up' of Option 3 - not that I'm advocating this as my desired solution; just wanted to get an idea of how it might look in reality [IMG]http://i35.tinypic.com/r9h6o8.jpg[/IMG]
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 15-07-2008, 12:34 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

[quote="Perryman"]Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. Ironically, I suspect that the councillors and their associates very much would like to return to Victorian values and ...
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 01-07-2008, 03:04 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

The site measures about 18x97m (allowing for access to Forest Hill Industrial estate). Not sure if that is quite wide enough for a 25x13m pool + surround, so you would need to take some of the garden...
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 24-07-2008, 05:55 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I'll be there Londondrz:) Having followed Michael's link above, I think that Option 2 is the least worst of the proposed options as it provides two pools, and some dry facilities. However.... [li...
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 16-07-2008, 03:06 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Gingernuts: No! Not one architect producing multiple designs, but multiple architects producing one (or more) designs each - that would be the competition :) Koza: How do you propose raising the...
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 09-09-2008, 12:49 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

One for the conspirators - Do you think that the council renamed the ward from Horniman to Forest Hill when the boundaries were redrawn in 2002 just so that they could say that Willow Way was in Fores...
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 15-05-2009, 01:47 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

There was a report by EPTa Architects at the Consultation on the feasibility of converting Louise House and the Superintendants' building . It was on the table (next to the biscuits) and showed a ver...
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 23-07-2008, 11:23 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

That's interesting because [url=http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:AkRUGkOLW4EJ:www.lewisham.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/DF9B752A-E2DD-4158-9EB7-7DE8EB42ECA0/0/govsuppcouncilforwardplankeydecisionssept09.do...
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 02-10-2009, 05:47 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Personally I am glad to see Louise House preserved, although listing may present problems which could have been avoided if the council had included it as an option from the start. The public meetin...
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 22-08-2008, 05:22 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Michael:[quote="Tim Walder (on Sydenham.org)"]The single storey building at the rear of Louise House was once the laundry where the girls did their washing. As I understand it (and I could be mistaken...
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 08-09-2008, 10:37 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Looks like they're based in Gloucester. They've been responsible for Central Park Leisure Centre, London Borough of Havering, Mile End Leisure Centre and Stoke Mandeville Stadium as well as the refur...
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 04-11-2009, 05:44 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Further infor from [url=http://www3.lewisham.gov.uk/LeisureAndCulture/SportAndLeisure/SportsFacilities/NewDevelopments/ForestHillPools/]Lewisham's website[/url] [quote]The Council has appointed the d...
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 06-11-2009, 03:31 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

At the local assembly, it was mentioned that the A&M design had severely underestimated the space required for plant and that the modern building would be much bigger as can be seen when the [url=http...
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 26-02-2010, 01:19 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I have just recieved the following email [quote][b]Forest Hill Pools design goes on display[/b] An exhibition of the latest design for the new Forest Hill Pools will be on display until Saturday ...
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 12-03-2010, 08:18 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

No. They used an image which has a curved roof over the plant building (see attachment). Guess there are some advantages to being the party in office ;)
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 16-03-2010, 04:48 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Don't get too excited, but the [url=http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/549E7012-EB98-4D85-9A9E-7AA0DB8B1DCD/0/Forest_Hill_Pools_Designs.pdf]PDF File[/url] of the designs is now online
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 16-03-2010, 05:11 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Here is the artist's impression of what it will look like [IMG]http://i43.tinypic.com/vrdnq0.jpg[/IMG]
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 11-05-2010, 03:01 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Sorry nevermodern. There are lots of views in the [url=http://acolnet.lewisham.gov.uk/ACOLLATEDOCS/63483_6.pdf]Deisgna and Access[/url] statement which michael linked to earlier. These pictures il...
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 12-05-2010, 03:46 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Having had a look at the plans, they seem very similar to the consultation plans. There are a few changes (some for the better, some not) [list][*]The cafe extension is to be clad in terracotta st...
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 11-05-2010, 02:55 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

DMM - Digital Multi meter / Diabolical Meaningless Mnemonics? How would you break up the frontage so that it wasn't such a monolith? Would windows or recesses improve it?
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 13-05-2010, 01:21 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

(Rereads original post - Drive me mad)
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 13-05-2010, 01:23 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Not an actual sample, but this is taken from page 38 of the Design Statement [IMG]http://i44.tinypic.com/24ypjdf.png[/IMG]
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 13-05-2010, 03:49 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

[quote="ex FH Pat"]Not sure how the old pool in FH is now[/quote]It's a bit like this [IMG]http://i49.tinypic.com/200zbf7.jpg[/IMG] [URL=http://i50.tinypic.com/33lyop2.jpg]larger copy[/URL]
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 03-07-2010, 11:21 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pools

The other pool we can get to easily (courtesy of the ELL) is at Surrey Quays. Off peak swim costs £3.80 There is also a pool at Dulwich College and the pool opposite Goose Green (which I believe i...
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 15-08-2010, 10:23 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pools

Wilmott Dixon seem to be fairly busy locally anyway; they appear to be building the 'snail' near Sainsbury's in Bell Green and were also involved in the build of Watergate Primary School in Bellingham...
NewForester SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,570 16-12-2010, 01:51 AM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Train service to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oa...

Can I suggest that you add Len Duvall (London Assembly representative for Lewisham and Greenwich) to SE23Northerner's list: Len Duval GLA City Hall The Queen's Walk London SE1 2AA Telephone:...
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 25-08-2009, 12:28 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Train Service to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oa...

I can accept your argument that the problem lies with 'at grade crossings' HTG, but we are talking about off-peak services here, not peak time services. Surely it's possible to have your cake and eat...
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 28-08-2009, 06:24 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Train Service to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oa...

The current National Rail timetable runs from Sunday 17 May to Saturday 12 December, so I would expect the next timetable to start on 13 December 2009
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 02-09-2009, 01:39 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak

Looks like his whole site is down. However, from the cached version at Google: [quote]To contact Jim Dowd MP you can write to him at Jim Dowd MP 43 Sunderland Road Forest Hill London SE23 2PS...
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 13-10-2009, 11:37 AM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak

Although the text of the letter was not published by SLP, you can see John Russell holding a copy of it [url=http://www.southlondonpress.co.uk/tn/News.cfm?id=41853&headline=Commuters%20bid%20to%20take...
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 02-11-2009, 03:06 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak

Try putting [code]"New Southern Railway 36th Supplemental " site:networkrail.co.uk[/code]into Google and selecting the first option
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 04-11-2009, 07:21 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak

However, Caroline Pidgeon, while mentioning Forest Hill (48:40), did campaign for the SLL... :(
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 13-11-2009, 04:32 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak

[quote="mattfh"]Bear in mind the 17:35 train could be one of the 2 less trains per hour in the evening peak running to Forest Hill from December when our timetable changes... [/quote] The services ...
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 04-11-2009, 06:42 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak

[quote=?Foresters?]Are they bound by any requirements for consultations which, if not followed, could make this one invalid? [/quote] Not sure, but according to question 4.12 of the Form 22 I referre...
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 06-11-2009, 04:31 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak

Petition storms through 2300... [url=http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/opposing-cuts-to-southern-services-to-forest-hill.html] [img]http://www.gopetition.com/counters?pid=30683&t=2[/img] [/url]
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 20-11-2009, 04:31 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak

According to the Route Utilisation Strategy document (RUS), the South London Line (SLL) carries far fewer passengers than any of the others which run into London Bridge and Victoria and the capacity i...
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 12-11-2009, 08:16 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak

The retention of the South London Line was [url=http://www.theyworkforyou.com/whall/?id=2009-11-11a.108.0]debated in Parliament[/url] on Remembrance Day. This debate explains quite clearly why the...
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 13-11-2009, 04:24 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak

Regarding the "Abrahams Special". What's to stop Surrey commuters from changing onto the ELL at Norwood Junction if they wish to avoid London Bridge? At least if they change at New Cross Gate, resid...
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 27-11-2009, 04:35 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak

According to London Reconnections [quote]TfL are believed to have proposed two options to make this possible - an option for 2tph terminating at London Bridge itself, or 2tph that stop there then run ...
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 16-11-2009, 02:52 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak

Yes, I just had this email from them [quote="SouthEastern"]It's time for change A totally new timetable will arrive on Sunday 13 December 2009, [b]bringing you more services, more choice and better ...
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 20-11-2009, 01:14 AM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak

Diversion from current debate... The [url=http://www.southlondonpress.co.uk/tn/News.cfm?id=46742&headline=South%20London%20Line%20report%20at%20City%20Hall]SLP is reporting[/url] that a report on t...
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 26-11-2009, 06:30 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak

The proposed timings for May's timetable are on Southern's website, or can be found [url=http://www.se23.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=372&pid=21769#pid21769]here[/url] at post 602 of this thread Mo...
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 14-12-2009, 06:14 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak

Maybe we can get Mr Dowd to copy [url=http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/4332]Simon Hughes[/url] and bring Sadiq Khan/Boris/Head of TfL on one of our trains :D
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 05-02-2010, 07:27 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park

I think Mr Hill has got confused; the trains don't run from New Cross to New Cross Gate ;) [quote="David Hill"]When the service begins on an as yet unspecified date early next month, eight trains an ...
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 17-03-2010, 03:15 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park

Passing through New Cross Gate last night, I noticed posters up advertising Northbound ELL trains at 10, 25, 40 and 55 minutes past the hour.
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 21-04-2010, 10:23 AM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park

but the reason that we don't need 6tph from London Bridge is that people travelling to Central London will find it more convenient, easier and cheaper to travel via the ELL and Jubilee lines.... Ca...
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 29-04-2010, 02:58 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park

Which is why the "map of south London train services in 2012" does not show any service to Highbury and Islington. Those 8tph will be the 8tph from Crystal Palace and West Croydon. We will have tw...
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 20-05-2010, 01:50 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park

Forest Hill is looking very festive today [IMG]http://i50.tinypic.com/zodmjs.jpg[/IMG] TfL are handing out free zone 1-6 travelcards and souvenir tickets (like the old British Rail ones before the...
NewForester SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,310 23-05-2010, 09:29 AM
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