SE23 Forum

A stinger, now there is an idea lol

A cyclist did recently hit one of our children along that stretch. He stopped and apologised, nobody was seriously hurt, and we all moved on.

It seems more of a flaw in planning than a case of bad or good cyclists (or bad or good parents who can't keep their kids to one side of the pavement!).

Sorry to hear about the child, glad they are ok.

However im curious, which part of planning caused the cyclist to have to ride on the pavement, and not either dismount or follow the short diversion.

Pedestrians should be able to use the entire footpath without fearing being run down by a pushbike.

I'd watch out for cylcists, first they take our jobs, then our women, and now our roads.

BD thought he actually check out the said piece of pavement. Bloomin heck, they don't give you a lot of space do they?. He tried moving the fencing out to give a bit more space, but without a spanner to dismantle it, it proved too heavy. So why not rant about this rather than us cyclists.

Now heavens knows how anyone would get through riding a bike let alone wheeling one. But in either case you'll find that most cyclists are sandal wearing vegans like this one, and may actually take notice. Try this "excuse me mate, there is not enough space for pedestrians let alone bikes" or something equally as non confrontational. We may not acknowledge it at the time, but will probably brood about it all day, and may well change our behaviour.

Of course the beauty is once we pick up our bikes, we become pedestrians.

Quite simply because its illegal to ride a pushbike on a public footpath, and not asking too much for a cyclist to dismount and walk the short distance where the road is closed from.

Why? When they should not be there in the first place.

Indeed, and it should be done as soon as cyclists reach the end of the ridable roadway.

I am a cyclist to, and dont ride along pavements terrorising pedestrians, nor compromising their space.
Im a motorist also, and dont drive down pavements. And a pedestrian, and feel the pavement is the place I should feel safest.

Im sure if the child struck by the cyclist could claim from the cyclists insurance if they had been more seriously hurt....... or would the cyclist have been one of the 98% of cyclists who are uninsured.

My point is, regardless of the huge reply I have made, the matter is simple..... the cyclist have no right to be there, therefore there should be no squeezing, near missed or confrontations.

Just thought I would post the updates that I have been given on the progress etc.

The work on the roadway is a few weeks behind schedule due to the condition of the roadway below road level. As well as a couple of unfortunate incidents involving large volumes of water. Which I must admit I was amazed not to see appear on here.

From discussion and looking at the way the road is laying out, I have to say I am once again fully behind the planning of the roadway, crossing point and improved footpathes.

The crossing point seems to be in the right place, given the projected line of the road, the roadway being reduced sufficiantly to minimise danger to sensible pedestrians. And the pavements increased enough to carry the high volume of pedestrians the footpath sees at peek times.

The other suggested touches also sound very fitting for the surroundings.

I also believe the plants growing from the walls bordering the station will be removed, but the walls now left in their aged finish. Clean walls of course encouraging grafitti.

As for the subway. New flooring is suggested, walls refinished, this time no art work (not for want though) and the lighting improved.
This will be done in a split phase to prevent total closure of the subway, so it will remain in use throughout.

A new exit structure for FH station. Not as dramatic as it sounds, but ensures the protection of this exit, and it will not be disappearing as some had feared.

Im sure this lot is more than enough to strike up some good conversation, so I will leave it there for now.

Oh, you mean this?

Yup and the other one !
One accident, one collapse im told.
Was that the Friday one or the one before, looks like the smaller of the 2

Friday evening (on the way back from sharing my views on the pool and the gates!)



Looked rather nasty

Aaaah t'was the second one then. The bigger of the 2.
It has been suggested that this was a proposed swimming pool for the South of the subway (by some anyway)

Actually that is a picture of the new pedestrian crossing point.
The crocodiles will be introduced in due course.

lol and there was me thinking Perry Vale already had enough snapping jaws

The crossing point is a lot further away than that.

Forgot to add in all my ramblings. Given the suggested footpath sizes, it sounds like the road will be nice and narrow.

And another point I thought of, the more raised crossing points, the more points its easier to mount the pavement for a car. Just thought of that one. Not that its hard for a car to mount a pavment.

It doesn't really look like there is much chance of Perry Vale reopening within the 3 months originally indicated (i.e. by Sep 9th). Does anyone know how the work is progressing?

Funny you should mention that......... Yes, I do

From the horses mouth so to speak....

There have been numerous problems with the water main as many might have noticed, this has of course not helped matters, and im pretty sure was not "planned" so to speak.

Hope you find this helpful.

Cheers snazy! Not too bothered either way actually - as a driver i'd like the road open again, but as a pedestrian i'm actually quite enjoying the more peaceful walk to the station in the mornings!

Yes traffic in Dacres Rd well under 50% than before. Let it be closed as long as possible. I am hoping people will have gotten used to diversions and keep to them.

No worries, would be rude not to keep people in the loop so to speak
I too enjoy the walk down the road in the morning and evenings with the dog, but am sure the commuters would like a bit of foot path back too.

Dont think the residents of Westbourne feel the same way though.

I have problems crossing Westbourne.All the diverted traffic goes along it and it does not have the crossing islands in the middle. The speed cushions do not slow the traffic either.

Totally agree mate, traffic seems to have sped up for some daft reason. Getting across it is a pain in the butt now.

not for long now, fingers crossed eh.
Then we will find out what is going to happen about the layout of PV once and for all.

Snazy - any chance of asking your mate, Mick Hepworth, when the road will re-open?

The three months are up and I don't think Berkeley Homes should be allowed to keep the road closed, despite stopping work on the actual building. We cannot have a public road closed indefinitely, for their convenience. At the very least they should stop any new work and reinstate the road to a usable standard. Is there a system of fines in place, if they overrun?