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Who pays to save pubs and shops?
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Tim Lund


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27-09-2013 04:44 PM

lacb wrote:
Whether you or I regard an establishment as well run has no bearing on its social value to the community.

My personal POV has little bearing on it, but in aggregate, the personal choices of members of the community do - they determine whether the establishment is financially sustainable.

lacb wrote:
. I can assure you that a place without pubs is not pleasant - I have lived in Southfields (a former Mormon community) so can vouch for that.


And my Mum grew up not far from the Becontree Estate, which was originally built without pubs, but somehow the system was flexible enough to allow them later. Job done. Was there any reason you know of that this couldn't happen in Southfields?

lacb wrote:
The issue with tied pubs has very little to do with the operation of a market. The landlord of a tied pub is contractually obliged to buy overpriced, and often poor quality, product from the pub owner. As tied pubs dominate the market, there will always be something more "viable" than a pub.


The tie of the landlord to the pubco is not the point - it's whether the pub owner can get a better overall return from some alternative use. If they can, but they are obliged to accept a lower return, then they lose out. We don't need to cry for the pubcos - they know they are taking risks on the local and national policies which affect them - but please don't forget the interest of those with saving in pension funds and life assurance companies.

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RE: Who should be allowed to run pubs? - Tim Lund - 27-09-2013 04:44 PM
RE: Ex Honor Oak Pub - dunc_30 - 27-09-2013, 10:15 AM
RE: Ex Honor Oak Pub - Cheeky - 27-09-2013, 10:58 AM
RE: Ex Honor Oak Pub - Bcm - 27-09-2013, 11:04 AM
RE: Ex Honor Oak Pub - daveherne - 27-09-2013, 11:25 AM
RE: Ex Honor Oak Pub - Cheeky - 27-09-2013, 11:38 AM
RE: Ex Honor Oak Pub - Tim Lund - 27-09-2013, 11:51 AM
RE: Ex Honor Oak Pub - dunc_30 - 27-09-2013, 12:11 PM
RE: Ex Honor Oak Pub - lacb - 27-09-2013, 12:25 PM
RE: Ex Honor Oak Pub - Tim Lund - 27-09-2013, 01:18 PM
RE: Ex Honor Oak Pub - lacb - 27-09-2013, 01:36 PM
RE: Ex Honor Oak Pub - Tim Lund - 27-09-2013, 01:58 PM
RE: Ex Honor Oak Pub - daveherne - 27-09-2013, 03:12 PM

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