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mcbain23


Posts: 32
Joined: May 2013
Post: #1
19-09-2013 01:49 PM

Can anyone confirm this latest tidbit to hit the HOP rumour mill - Tesco have bought the now-defunct Honor Oak Pub site, and are planning to put a Tesco Metro in there..

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Snazy


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Joined: Jan 2008
Post: #2
19-09-2013 02:31 PM

Would it be big enough for a store? If im thinking of the right pub. Brockley Rise / St Germans Rd ?

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davidl


Posts: 180
Joined: Oct 2007
Post: #3
19-09-2013 09:55 PM

Haven't Tesco already got plans to open a small store in Crofton Park (Sevenoaks Road, if I remember rightly)?

I am still holding out my hopes for a new tenant to reopen the place as a good pub with good beer and food who can make it work within the terms Punch Taverns insist upon.

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Bcm


Posts: 187
Joined: May 2010
Post: #4
20-09-2013 07:25 AM

I hate Tesco with a burning passion so hope not in this case.

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Sherwood


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Joined: Mar 2005
Post: #5
20-09-2013 08:33 AM

"If Tesco did pubs!"

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lacb


Posts: 623
Joined: Mar 2005
Post: #6
20-09-2013 08:54 AM

The Sevenoaks Rd site is having a tricky time with planning permission so it would not be a surprise if Tesco are looking elsewhere. At least as recently as July, I think that Punch Taverns were still looking for a pub tenant. Hope that is still the case but I couldn't find it listed on their website.

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Belle


Posts: 88
Joined: Dec 2009
Post: #7
20-09-2013 09:27 AM

That's an interesting rumour! Tesco is not my favourite shop by any stretch of the imagination but at least it would serve the local community and I imagine like all convenience stores it will be very popular (the CO-OP on Waldram Road is always packed). Better that than a pub that's not used by the community or just a building that stands empty for years.

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Mr_Numbers


Posts: 510
Joined: May 2012
Post: #8
20-09-2013 09:45 AM

Parking could be an interesting challenge - that and having space for lorry deliveries.

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Codrington Brill


Posts: 66
Joined: Mar 2012
Post: #9
20-09-2013 12:30 PM

I hate to disappoint with planning stuff again but the change of use wouldn't require planning permission so don't expect a planning application for the change of use.

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Mr_Numbers


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Joined: May 2012
Post: #10
20-09-2013 12:35 PM

You mean you can change a pub into a Tescos without planning permission but you can't change a dry cleaner's into an estate agent?

I know absolutely zero about planning so maybe I've misunderstood either your posting or the dry cleaner/Peddar discussion. But if that's right, that seems nuts. There are, at the very least, traffic implications with pub/Tesco but not with dry cleaner/office, surely.

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Codrington Brill


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Joined: Mar 2012
Post: #11
20-09-2013 12:47 PM

To clarify, you can change a pub into a tescos (or any other shop) without the need for a planning application.

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Mr_Numbers


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Post: #12
20-09-2013 12:49 PM

That astounds me. I'm not doubting you - I'm just astounded! Thanks for clarifying.

Is there any logic in the planning rules?

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Erekose


Posts: 536
Joined: May 2010
Post: #13
20-09-2013 02:29 PM

Mr Numbers you can check it all out on the Planning Portal:
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permiss...hangeofuse

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lillam


Posts: 129
Joined: Apr 2006
Post: #14
22-09-2013 02:22 PM

hopefully the council will squash that plan in crofton park - Jay's Budgens is doing the job of tesco better than tesco can, and him and his family have had a shop in the community for years.

bring back st.germains pub!

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admin
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Posts: 376
Joined: Dec 2002
Post: #15
26-09-2013 09:19 AM

The Honor Oak Pub now has squatters who have put up this sign:



Photo taken by @sarcasticfringe.



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Nellienoodle


Posts: 23
Joined: Feb 2013
Post: #16
26-09-2013 09:31 AM

I live on St Germans Road so I have taken a lot of interest (my husband calls it nosiness!) in the site. When the pub closed and was gutted, I spoke to a man working there and he told me the Britannia Pub Company (owner of the Half Moon and the Herne) had bought it and that they planned to open in two weeks. Well clearly that didnt happen. The man also told me they were really pleased with the purchase as there are so few local pubs. About a month ago I saw someone measuring up. I hoped they had decided they need to spend some cash on it before opening up. But it sounds like it was Mr Tesco...

I really hope it doesn't turn into a Tesco. Ignoring any access issues etc. wouldn't the old indian restaurant on the corner be a better site?

There is a real need for a top notch community pub. We used to use the pub regularly and it was one of the reasons we decided to buy on St Germans Road. I know the old manager had a hard time of it, but it didnt offer what we need - I got fed up of my husband moaning about the c**p beer and being served a "latte" (nescafe mixed with milk and served with a straw). I'm sure with some hard work and style the pub would a great success again. I would love to run it but Id find it hard not to drink/eat the profits away...

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rmurraywest


Posts: 42
Joined: Jan 2010
Post: #17
26-09-2013 11:25 AM

Well at the moment the pub seems to be inhabited by some quite savvy squatters - who have installed a doorbell, and have kindly put their email address on the front door.

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Mr_Numbers


Posts: 510
Joined: May 2012
Post: #18
26-09-2013 11:39 AM

This from the Gov.uk website:

https://www.gov.uk/squatting-law/overview

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Southlonder


Posts: 119
Joined: Aug 2009
Post: #19
26-09-2013 12:11 PM

Hmm surpring given the law changes dont they realise that they face jail? There are some well documented cases recently where this has happened

oh well they must be morons Rolleyes

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daveherne


Posts: 212
Joined: Jul 2012
Post: #20
26-09-2013 12:36 PM

it had metal shutters up so they will be in trouble if they caused damage.

https://www.gov.uk/squatting-law/squatti...properties

but as i image t is not yet 28 days since they moved in they will have to leave within a few days when IPO issued.

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