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michael


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07-02-2013 09:29 AM

As well as the controversial claim that 100 lives will be saved by the downgrading of Lewisham A&E, is some twisted statistics in the Hunt's speech:

Jeremy Hunt wrote:
For both emergency and maternity care, Sir Bruce found no evidence that patients would be put at risk through increased journey times. The whole population of south-east London will continue to be within 30 minutes of a blue light transfer to an A&E department, with the typical journey time being on average only one minute longer. Accessing consultant-led maternity services will involve an increase in journey times on average of two to three minutes by private or public transport. Sir Bruce therefore concluded that there should be no impact on the quality of care due to the small increase in travel time.


So nobody will have to travel more than 30 minutes in an ambulance to get to an open A&E (you would hope so in London - I'm sure you could get to the other side of London in 30 minutes in an ambulance with flashing lights), but how long does the average ambulance travel to get to Lewisham, my guess is about 10 minutes (I suspect there are figures in Kershaw's report to back this up).

The 'one minute longer' is not for Lewisham residents, it is an average across 'the whole population of south-east London', most of whom will still be closer to one of the other three hospitals in SE London. By definition the impact on Lewisham residents will be considerably more than one minute, in fact it would be fair to assume from the headlines that for some the journey time will go from 10 minutes to closer to 30 minutes. That's the time from the ambulance loading you in and carting you off, not the time you dial 999.

Again the figures for public access to consultant-led maternity services are spread across all of South East London, making the two to three minutes seem more acceptable, and helpfully combining the private and public transport into a single figure. For plenty in Lewisham there will be a considerably longer journey time to such maternity services, but apparently that's okay because it is averaged out against the rest of south east London who will not have longer journey times.

The cuts to services hit worst in an area spread across most of Lewisham borough which roughly correlate with the worst deprivation and worst health in South East London. But it does allow the government to dismantle a good hospital in a poor borough while protecting the services of failing hospitals in rich areas.

Good to hear about Michael Gove's U-turn this morning, I hope Jeremy Hunt was watching how it's done.

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Cuts to Lewisham Hospital A&E - ringingcod - 26-10-2012, 07:52 PM
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RE: Lewisham A&E to close - ringingcod - 26-10-2012, 10:40 PM
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RE: Lewisham A&E to close - ryananglem - 29-10-2012, 03:42 PM
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RE: Lewisham A&E to close - blushingsnail - 29-10-2012, 06:37 PM
RE: Lewisham A&E to close - rshdunlop - 29-10-2012, 06:41 PM
RE: Lewisham A&E to close - ringingcod - 29-10-2012, 06:49 PM
RE: Lewisham A&E to close - robin orton - 29-10-2012, 06:54 PM
RE: Lewisham A&E to close - pixysunflower - 29-10-2012, 10:54 PM
RE: Lewisham A&E to close - Satchers - 30-10-2012, 09:33 AM
RE: Lewisham A&E to close - rshdunlop - 30-10-2012, 09:44 AM
RE: Lewisham A&E to close - Sherwood - 30-10-2012, 01:59 PM
RE: Lewisham A&E to close - Scorpion - 30-10-2012, 02:47 PM
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RE: Lewisham Hospital A&E to close? - lacb - 01-02-2013, 12:52 PM
RE: Lewisham Hospital A&E to close? - michael - 07-02-2013 09:29 AM
RE: Lewisham Hospital A&E to close? - lacb - 07-02-2013, 11:09 AM
RE: Lewisham Hospital A&E to close? - lacb - 07-02-2013, 05:59 PM
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