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Cuts to Lewisham Hospital A&E
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ryananglem
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29-10-2013 04:02 PM
I am happy and proud to be part of an area with such community spirit. I'm also a little sad that it had to come to this.
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michael
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29-10-2013 04:35 PM
Perhaps we can find room for you all on Deano's plinth?
That's 25,000 people dancing on the head of a plinth!
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Mr_Numbers
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29-10-2013 04:36 PM
Damn! Where's the *Like* button???
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OakR
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30-10-2013 01:08 AM
Great stuff. Slightly concerned by his 'now looking at the law' comment but hopefully any change would not get voted through.
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lacb
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30-10-2013 05:27 PM
Yes, great stuff
hopefully any change would not get voted through
Really? Isn't this a reference to the amendment to the care bill?
http://www.leighday.co.uk/News/2013/Octo...minute-ame
It seems to have had a pretty smooth passage through parliament so far... has that changed?
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Tinkerbell
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30-10-2013 07:01 PM
Great to hear, well done SE Londoners!
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lillam
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05-11-2013 10:00 AM
As far as i understand it this isnt over - Hunt will try and change the law (so a judge couldn't rule the closure illegal) and proposed the changes again. One saving grace might be that it takes longer than May 2015 for that to happen and the Tories arent looking likely of winning the next election..
Have i got that wrong?
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lacb
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05-11-2013 10:33 AM
I had thought exactly this lillam and had posted so. I was mistaken and there is still a danger here.
The point of my previous post above is that the government are not waiting to enact a bill for this, they have inserted an amendment into an unrelated (Care) bill making its way thought parliament, that would give a TSA exactly the power that the courts have said they do not have - to close a neighbouring hospital outside of the trust being administered.
A lot of MPs will not want to torpedo a bill aimed at care for the elderly in order to save a hospital outside their constituency, even though this could apply anywhere. Sneaky.
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Sherwood
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05-11-2013 01:35 PM
But they acn amend it!
They could just vote out the insertion by raising an amendment.
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lacb
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michael
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12-03-2014 04:10 PM
Rather sad that parliament passed the amendment to legalise what was attempted in Lewisham. It is possible that these are the right powers for the Secretary of State, but the way this has come about points to all the worst fears about closing down successful hospitals for financial/political rather than health reasons.
A couple of fun quotes from yesterday's debate:
Andy Burnham (Shadow Secretary of State for Health; Leigh, Labour)
That is why I say, Thank God for the people of Lewisham. The Government may well have got away with it if they had picked on a community that does not know how to fight like my hon. Friend's community. I say in all seriousness that they did a service for every community that is worried about its hospital services. That fight inspired everybody. He is right that the arrogance is breathtaking.
and a bit later Joan Ruddock interrupts Jim Dowd:
Joan Ruddock (Lewisham, Deptford, Labour)
I want to ensure that my hon. Friend does not end this part of his speech without reminding the House that one of the things that those involved in the TSA process intended to do was sell off half the land occupied by the buildings of Lewisham hospital and that was not in the public consultation document.
Response:
Jim Dowd (Lewisham West and Penge, Labour)
It is with some trepidation that I must disagree with my right hon. Friend. In fact, the figure was closer to two thirds of the estate. The scheme was so well engineered that they left the bit that we were keeping, allegedly, for whatever was going to be there (a glorified first aid post) completely landlocked. There was no access apart from via the River Ravensbourne, which is not the mode of transport favoured by most people using Lewisham hospital. Oh yes, it was all worked out well beforehand.
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michael
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lacb
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SeanThomas
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14-05-2014 10:08 PM
That's great news. That clause bordered on something you'd read about in a 1950s dystopian work of fiction.
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michael
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03-07-2015 09:15 AM
My friend wrote a letter of complaint to Lewisham Hospital after she visited the A&E. They have made the letter publicly available. Before it goes viral I thought I would give readers on SE23.com a chance to read it.
http://lgnhs.net/cmadv1/ImageGallery/LEW...plaint.pdf
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Pippi
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03-07-2015 09:47 AM
Haha, that's so funny, I had the exact same experience when I tore a muscle last month and end up in Lewisham A&E in the early hours of the Bank Holiday Monday.
The best and quickest A&E experience I've ever had!
But shhh, don't tell everyone 
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carole
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03-07-2015 12:11 PM
I've had similar experiences in Lewisham Hospital, both A&E and some of the Outpatient Departments. One of the reasons I supported the Save Lewisham Hospital Campaign.
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rshdunlop
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03-07-2015 01:57 PM
I have a child who visits A&E so often they're thinking of renaming it after him. We never get anything less than superb attention and treatment there.
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michael
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Londondrz
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03-07-2015 04:30 PM
A great article. Just keep an eye out another attempt at closing Lewisham down quietly.
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