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michael


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Post: #41
28-03-2012 07:20 AM

Brian wrote:
What happens when they build their own aeroplanes and open enough of their own quality universities.

Answer: They will be able to afford the same quality of health care, welfare, pensions, and foreign holidays that we currently enjoy.
A richer, more productive (and environmentally responsible) world is better for everybody.
Today 30% of Rolls Royces are sold to China. Even if this is a German company, it is good news for British workers manufacturing some of the most expensive cars in the world. But imagine the impact if China had a health system as good as Britain - some of our largest pharmaceutical companies would be making billions of extra revenue.

Back on the subject of the budget, the lowest paid workers currently have to be supported by various welfare provisions. Substantially reducing the tax they pay will have a positive effect and I hope will allow the government to spend less on benefits. Switching from benefits to lower taxation is a positive step for any government to take.

Whether switching taxation from the richest 1% to pensioners tax allowances is good is another question, but let's quickly change the subject and discuss minimum alcohol pricing and have you noticed the lovely weather?

This post was last modified: 28-03-2012 07:21 AM by michael.

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Cellar Door


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Post: #42
28-03-2012 10:00 AM

Michael wrote:
…discuss minimum alcohol pricing…

I’d like some control on maximum alcohol pricing.

Have you bought a pint in some of the fine watering holes in SE23 lately? They charge like wounded bulls.

And the weather is lovely. Beautiful one day, perfect the next in SE23 land.

This post was last modified: 28-03-2012 10:01 AM by Cellar Door.

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Andy


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28-03-2012 01:10 PM

Charge like wounded bulls Laugh, some of our local hostelries do indeed seem to take the proverbial. Weather is lovely.

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brian


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28-03-2012 04:58 PM

Wetherspoon Penge Beer Festival is 1.80p per pint

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Cellar Door


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Post: #45
29-03-2012 10:31 AM

Brian wrote:
Wetherspoon Penge Beer Festival is 1.80p per pint

Thank you Brian.

Penge? I hope that you are joking by even suggesting that I'd venture so far south. I'd get a nosebleed. At the very least. I'm sure.

Penge is essentially the countryside, I've been told by those brave souls who have been there and got back to civilisation here in sunny SE23.

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brian


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29-03-2012 11:41 AM

I8f you believe Penge is the countryside what would you think Keston is.

Also you could visit The Capitol if you prefer

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michael


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29-03-2012 12:22 PM

I'm shocked that Cellar Doors should find Penge too far south. I don't think an Australian is in any position to criticise somewhere for being so far south.

Of all the reasons not to go to Penge this has to be the least convincing.
I like visiting places which have the same consonants, and in the same order, as names of cartoon penguins. It makes me feel more connected to the southern hemisphere.

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Foresthillboy


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29-03-2012 12:41 PM

maybe we should rename this thread - beer/pubs in Penge/South ?

This post was last modified: 29-03-2012 12:41 PM by Foresthillboy.

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Sherwood


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29-03-2012 01:18 PM

My tag restricts me to Forest Hill!

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Cellar Door


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29-03-2012 02:03 PM

Brian wrote:
…what would you think Keston is.

Is Keston a real place? I thought it was a mythological place that only appears in tales and folklore. Like Atlantis, El Dorado and Cloud Cuckoo Land.

Brian wrote:
Also you could visit The Capitol if you prefer

I most certainly will be staying in The Capitol. At £1.99 for a cold Carlsberg, you’d need a crowbar to wedge me out of there now-a-days.

Foresthillboy wrote:
maybe we should rename this thread - beer/pubs in Penge/South ?

Many apologies for the drift south from your original thread.

So, to answer your original question. I don’t have the time to analyse the budget, at source, as it is enormously complex. (When was it ever not?) I also don’t consume much media. Radio 4 and The Economist at best these days for their relatively balanced views.

What I have found interesting is that colleagues at my work, friends and people that I chit-chat with in The Capitol have generally been silent on the subject. What do you think the general silence indicates? A positive view of the budget, maybe?

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Sherwood


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29-03-2012 03:21 PM

Cellar Door,

Their silence probably indicates that they are not pensioners!

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Cellar Door


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29-03-2012 04:09 PM

Sherwood wrote:
Their silence probably indicates that they are not pensioners!

Not a good budget time to be a pensioner, then?
Lucky, if you like, that the government are delaying the pension age. I read the other day that George Osborne is proposing to raise the pension age by a year every 12 months. That will certainly help to keep the number of pensioners in control.

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michael


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29-03-2012 04:18 PM

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What do you think the general silence indicates?

Distraction by slightly simpler to understand concepts like minimum pricing for alcohol, how hot should pasties be, the impending fuel crisis-that-won't-be, and how nice the weather has been.

I remember when it was 80p a pint in the Dartmouth, although I sometimes thought the pump was connected to the dishwater outlet.

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brian


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29-03-2012 04:34 PM

I recall when bitter was 1/9d a pint. 8 or 9p to the youngsters.

Cellar Door
If you drink c**p lager good luck to you.

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Cellar Door


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29-03-2012 04:38 PM

Brian wrote:
8 or 9p to the youngsters.

How dare they serve bitter to the youngsters.

This post was last modified: 29-03-2012 04:40 PM by Cellar Door.

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stefan


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30-03-2012 08:03 AM

Brian, I love drinking ****** cold lager as long my prostate can handle it, at one point i might be forced to change to lukewarm bitter

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brian


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30-03-2012 12:20 PM

Bitter a sign of civilisation , rather like The Daily Telegraph and Radio 4.

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roz


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Post: #58
30-03-2012 08:35 PM

Yes to Radio 4, not sure about the Telegraph. Doesnt it have a rather dubious owner?

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