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brian


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Post: #41
20-11-2011 06:29 PM

They could put spikes on their side of the fence.

Surely no one cares if and when criminals hurt themselves.

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bensonby


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Joined: Dec 2010
Post: #42
20-11-2011 06:35 PM

Brian, anyone else who might consider placing traps or "deterrents" in their gardens, if I may point you to the Occupiers Liability Act 1984 and s.31 of The Offences Against the Person Act 1861.

Links:

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/3/contents

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict...section/31

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Deano


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Joined: Oct 2011
Post: #43
20-11-2011 09:39 PM

Bensonby, good point. Why not just give them the keys and make them a cuppa Smile
Sounds like you haven't had anyone break into your garden.

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mrwandle


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Joined: Sep 2011
Post: #44
21-11-2011 11:16 AM

Or stick a pond in the garden, if they want to go wandering about in the dark they'll end up in it.

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Londondrz


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Post: #45
21-11-2011 11:43 AM

A legal deterent for your garden or shed. Just dotn forget it there.

Safe link: http://www.henrykrank.com/alarm_mine.html

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andrewr


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Post: #46
21-11-2011 11:55 AM

If

Quote:
'the slightest pressure'

on the trip wire will fire the blank (see the link above) then there could be a lot of disturbance from inquisitive foxes! Seems like a slightly less sensitive trip wire is required. Does seem like a useful deterrent though because it would alert all in the area to the presence of intruders and probably not be as widely ignored as domestic burglar alarms.

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bensonby


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Post: #47
21-11-2011 03:41 PM

Deano, I didn't comment on what i thought of the legal situation. I Merely pointed it out to highligh the possible legal consequences of installing certain types
of "deterrent".

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andrewr


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Post: #48
21-11-2011 04:06 PM

Bensonby
Am I right in understanding that your link to the Offences against the Person Act implies that it is permissible to set a 'spring gun, man trap, or other engine calculated to destroy human life or inflict grievous bodily harm' to protect a dwelling house so long as this is only done between sunset and sunrise?

Surprising if true, but a possible business opportunity here! Modern technology should make it possible to enable and disable the equipment at the appropriate hours automatically.Rolleyes

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brian


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Post: #49
27-03-2012 02:10 PM

Quote:
Was also advised that if it was a kid that burgled us chances are nothing will happen to them.


So kids can break the law at will.

What has happened to Borstals

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thea


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Post: #50
27-03-2012 02:15 PM

that's what it sounds like to me! One of the women told us that one of the offenders has been caught and let out/off so many times and he just keeps doing it. I was hoping the police will make a dna match but now I've been told that if it's a kid nothing will happen and if it's an adult we will only find out who it is IF it goes to court! I'm disgusted that the victim can't have any information but the criminal is protected!

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brian


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Post: #51
27-03-2012 02:28 PM

I appreciate your disgust

Regret the criminals have human rights the victims do not

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brian


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Post: #52
31-03-2012 08:24 AM

There are far too many incidents for comfort. About time the authorities did something.

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Poppy9560


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Joined: Aug 2008
Post: #53
31-03-2012 11:18 AM

Brian - what do you think the authorities can do aside from what they already do????

the police investigate and if they get evidence the burglar will be prosecuted and if convicted sentenced. I think sentences could be longer - but it is up to the government to set sentencing guidelines. They certainly need to build more prisons - and the issue of education and unemployment play a part. Some people are of course just plain bad and will commit crime regardless......Unsure

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brian


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Post: #54
31-03-2012 11:35 AM

Those caught should get LONG prison visits with hard labour ( no I do not mean Milliband Jnr )

I understand it is not even automatic that they get put away . Unbelievable.

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Foresthillboy


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Joined: Jan 2012
Post: #55
02-04-2012 10:21 AM

Indeed its is Unbelievable Brian that some never get put away

Pretty sure we did not have such high crime in the 60,s, then maybe most of the UK were 2 stoned

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brian


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Post: #56
02-04-2012 11:29 AM

I think it is exagerated how many on drugs in the 60's
Would imagine far more today.

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Foresthillboy


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Post: #57
02-04-2012 12:38 PM

Think I will have to agree with you on that one Brian, however I was only at junior school in the 60s, in what I would say were the best/carefree days of my life, dont care what anyone says about rose tinted glasses, I firmly believe the the 60os were a magical time, the 70,s were superb also, apologies to all, for going off topic, and before I get pikced up on it, apologies for any spelling mistakes of poorly written English, its all them drugs in the 60s when I should have been studying - LOL

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Sherwood


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Post: #58
02-04-2012 01:20 PM

"rose tinted glasses"!

There seemed to be a permanent blue haze!

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Foresthillboy


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Post: #59
02-04-2012 01:24 PM

So is Sherwood really Jimi Hendrix ? or was that Purple Haze or maybe that was Prince, oh no, he was Purple rain, see, all them drugs have clouded my brain

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