Discipline is certainly part of what's needed to get things on control again. But it ignores what's going on, and it's not simple to define.

When I think about why I wouldn't, for example, loot Maplins, it might because I want there to be a Maplins in Forest Hill. I want there to be businesses to support the community and local employment etc. If I was in a situation where I could never even get a job in Maplins, let alone buy things from there, and that had to be accepted as my life (not just unemployed for a few months or a year, unemployable for a long time), then I'd be a lot angrier that I had been economically segregated from the society I grew up in. Multiply this feeling by a factor unknown to me, and we have *part* of what's happening here.

Not endorsing what's happening, but beating the kids back into their cages or filling up prison cells won't fix much. It may even make things worse.