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Riots in London
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michael


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08-08-2011 07:32 AM

It is unfortunate that, once again, the information surrounding a man killed by police appears to change from day to day, just like with de Menezes.

On Friday - Sunday we were hearing:

Quote:
He [Mark Duggan] shot the officer from Scotland Yard’s elite firearms squad CO19 in the side of his chest with a handgun.

The bullet lodged in the police radio that the undercover officer was carrying in a side pocket.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z1UQ1YJtPN

Clear, unambiguous, and based on police statements to the press.
This morning we read:

Telegraph wrote:
However initial forensic tests suggest that the bullet is a hollow-point round as used by the Metropolitan Police.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission says they are awaiting further tests before they will know whether or not the bullet was a police-issue round.

But the results of the initial tests cast doubt on whether or not Mr Duggan actually fired at officers. It could also fuel further disturbances if it emerges that Mr Duggan did not fire at police.


There appear to be plenty of people in North London who believe that Mark Duggan had placed his gun on the ground before he was shot. But the IPCC has already ruled out the possibility that this was a police 'assassination' (before the ballistics have come back or an investigation carried out).

Added to this was the perceived reaction by police to the peaceful protest earlier in the day.

I certainly don't think any of this excuses rioting and looting. But it shows that the narrative provided by Grange Gem and much of the media over the weekend is questionable and that a full investigation is required, rather than speculation by people on the other side of London.

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Riots in London - The Grange Gem - 07-08-2011, 10:17 PM
RE: Riots in London - michael - 08-08-2011 07:32 AM
RE: Riots in London - brian - 08-08-2011, 11:44 AM
RE: Riots in London - Jon Lloyd - 08-08-2011, 12:27 PM
RE: Riots in London - Jon Lloyd - 08-08-2011, 12:34 PM
RE: Riots in London - brian - 08-08-2011, 12:35 PM
RE: Riots in London - jollyrog - 08-08-2011, 12:46 PM
RE: Riots in London - michael - 08-08-2011, 12:48 PM
RE: Riots in London - rshdunlop - 08-08-2011, 12:49 PM
RE: Riots in London - Jon Lloyd - 08-08-2011, 02:21 PM
RE: Riots in London - brian - 08-08-2011, 02:31 PM
RE: Riots in London - Jon Lloyd - 08-08-2011, 03:23 PM
RE: Riots in London - Scorpion - 08-08-2011, 03:29 PM
RE: Riots in London - stefan - 08-08-2011, 03:45 PM
RE: Riots in London - penfold - 08-08-2011, 04:56 PM
RE: Riots in London - Londondrz - 08-08-2011, 05:47 PM
RE: Riots in London - Scorpion - 08-08-2011, 05:48 PM
RE: Riots in London - Applespider - 08-08-2011, 05:52 PM
RE: Riots in London - brian - 08-08-2011, 05:55 PM
RE: Riots in London - Scorpion - 08-08-2011, 06:18 PM
RE: Riots in London - Poppy9560 - 08-08-2011, 06:29 PM
RE: Riots in London - brian - 08-08-2011, 06:33 PM
RE: Riots in London - Scorpion - 08-08-2011, 06:51 PM
RE: Riots in London - Scorpion - 08-08-2011, 06:58 PM
RE: Riots in London - Poppy9560 - 08-08-2011, 07:09 PM
RE: Riots in London - Scorpion - 08-08-2011, 08:04 PM
RE: Riots in London - roz - 08-08-2011, 08:11 PM
RE: Riots in London - Applespider - 08-08-2011, 08:29 PM
RE: Riots in London - rbmartin - 08-08-2011, 08:29 PM
RE: Riots in London - Applespider - 08-08-2011, 08:37 PM
RE: Riots in London - roz - 08-08-2011, 08:46 PM
RE: Riots in London - Scorpion - 08-08-2011, 08:55 PM
RE: Riots in London - michael - 08-08-2011, 09:01 PM
RE: Riots in London - Scorpion - 08-08-2011, 09:27 PM
RE: Riots in London - Tinkerbell - 08-08-2011, 09:28 PM
RE: Riots in London - Tinkerbell - 08-08-2011, 09:33 PM
RE: Riots in London - TND - 08-08-2011, 09:46 PM
RE: Riots in London - jay25 - 08-08-2011, 10:00 PM
RE: Riots in London - PVP - 08-08-2011, 10:06 PM
RE: Riots in London - Mattfh - 08-08-2011, 10:13 PM
RE: Riots in London - seangarvin - 08-08-2011, 10:42 PM
RE: Riots in London - roz - 08-08-2011, 10:44 PM
RE: Riots in London - eastofthetrack - 09-08-2011, 06:17 AM
RE: Riots in London - spartan army - 09-08-2011, 06:30 AM
RE: Riots in London - seangarvin - 09-08-2011, 06:54 AM
RE: Riots in London - seangarvin - 09-08-2011, 06:55 AM
RE: Riots in London - Bcm - 09-08-2011, 07:46 AM
RE: Riots in London - rshdunlop - 09-08-2011, 08:00 AM
RE: Riots in London - eastofthetrack - 09-08-2011, 08:05 AM
RE: Riots in London - Sherwood - 09-08-2011, 08:35 AM
RE: Riots in London - shzl400 - 09-08-2011, 09:39 AM
RE: Riots in London - Triangle - 09-08-2011, 09:53 AM
RE: Riots in London - Tinkerbell - 09-08-2011, 10:08 AM
RE: Riots in London - Tinkerbell - 09-08-2011, 10:17 AM
RE: Riots in London - brian - 09-08-2011, 10:42 AM
RE: Riots in London - TND - 09-08-2011, 10:44 AM
RE: Riots in London - Katie H-M - 09-08-2011, 10:45 AM
RE: Riots in London - michael - 09-08-2011, 10:58 AM
RE: Riots in London - admin - 09-08-2011, 10:58 AM
RE: Riots in London - hillsideresident - 09-08-2011, 11:05 AM
RE: Riots in London - Tinkerbell - 09-08-2011, 11:19 AM
RE: Riots in London - brian - 09-08-2011, 11:33 AM
RE: Riots in London - PVP - 09-08-2011, 12:05 PM
RE: Riots in London - brian - 09-08-2011, 12:25 PM
RE: Riots in London - dartmouth - 09-08-2011, 12:41 PM
RE: Riots in London - shzl400 - 09-08-2011, 01:13 PM
RE: Riots in London - Merlin - 09-08-2011, 01:40 PM
RE: Riots in London - dartmouth - 09-08-2011, 02:31 PM
RE: Riots in London - roz - 09-08-2011, 03:11 PM
RE: Riots in London - admin - 09-08-2011, 06:58 PM
RE: Riots in London - Tinkerbell - 09-08-2011, 09:41 PM
RE: Riots in London - FHSoc - 10-08-2011, 05:23 AM
RE: Riots in London - FHSoc - 10-08-2011, 05:26 AM
RE: Riots in London - FHSoc - 10-08-2011, 06:36 AM
RE: Riots in London - Londondrz - 10-08-2011, 12:19 PM
RE: Riots in London - sandy - 10-08-2011, 01:39 PM
RE: Riots in London - BT - 10-08-2011, 03:38 PM
RE: Riots in London - brian - 10-08-2011, 03:40 PM
RE: Riots in London - Sherwood - 10-08-2011, 04:14 PM
RE: Riots in London - brian - 10-08-2011, 04:44 PM
RE: Riots in London - Applespider - 10-08-2011, 07:56 PM
RE: Riots in London - Poppy9560 - 10-08-2011, 08:06 PM
RE: Riots in London - Applespider - 10-08-2011, 08:15 PM
RE: Riots in London - Londondrz - 10-08-2011, 09:26 PM
RE: Riots in London - Sherwood - 11-08-2011, 06:43 AM
RE: Riots in London - Merlin - 11-08-2011, 08:14 AM
RE: Riots in London - Bcm - 11-08-2011, 08:43 AM
RE: Riots in London - Merlin - 11-08-2011, 09:29 AM
RE: Riots in London - Applespider - 11-08-2011, 10:06 AM
RE: Riots in London - mgmonkey - 11-08-2011, 01:12 PM
RE: Riots in London - Jon Lloyd - 11-08-2011, 03:43 PM
RE: Riots in London - brian - 11-08-2011, 06:26 PM
RE: Riots in London - oryx - 11-08-2011, 09:19 PM
RE: Riots in London - mrcee - 12-08-2011, 07:06 AM
RE: Riots in London - brian - 12-08-2011, 08:04 AM
RE: Riots in London - michael - 12-08-2011, 08:39 AM
RE: Riots in London - Perryman - 12-08-2011, 09:49 AM
RE: Riots in London - jon14 - 12-08-2011, 11:15 AM
RE: Riots in London - orange - 12-08-2011, 11:53 AM
RE: Riots in London - Triangle - 12-08-2011, 01:05 PM
RE: Riots in London - brian - 12-08-2011, 01:08 PM
RE: Riots in London - notstoppin - 15-08-2011, 03:26 PM
RE: Riots in London - brian - 15-08-2011, 03:57 PM
RE: Riots in London - Londondrz - 15-08-2011, 06:09 PM
RE: Riots in London - notstoppin - 17-08-2011, 08:48 PM
RE: Riots in London - notstoppin - 17-08-2011, 08:50 PM
RE: Riots in London - FHSoc - 20-08-2011, 08:16 AM
RE: Riots in London - DKZ - 22-08-2011, 05:17 PM
RE: Riots in London - hillsideresident - 24-08-2011, 02:43 PM
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