It's interesting, Bumble, what you said about the administrator moving the threads and basically shutting the forum down. The question it prompts, for me, is who owns the forum? It feels like it belongs to the community, but dies it really belong to the adminstrator if he set it up and runs it? If it has a succession of community based Admins who volunteer from the ranks of the posters, maybe it is a community project. But if a sole administrator sets it up and later decides to close it down, is it his right? Sabotaging an existing forum to encourage trade elsewhere is, of course, reprehensible and against the spirit of a community forum.