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Forest Hill in the Times property section
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rshdunlop


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Post: #1
10-06-2011 09:30 AM

A bit of a luke-warm write up, and positively misleading when it states that the 'South Circular is jammed from dawn to dusk'.

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robin orton


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10-06-2011 10:25 AM

When isn't it jammed then - apart from quite a long time after dusk and (except at the weekends) quite a long time before dawn?

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jon14


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Post: #3
10-06-2011 10:51 AM

It's busy sometimes like most roads but quite often it's fine. You can get round in the daytime without too much of a problem. It gets jammed at Catford, but not really Forest Hill.

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rshdunlop


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10-06-2011 11:01 AM

It flows perfectly well through Forest Hill for most of the day, just a bit slow in the morning and evening rush. It's rarely 'jammed' where you are just inching along, as happens in Catford.

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robin orton


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10-06-2011 11:05 AM

In my experience, it can be pretty slow-moving, even if not actually jammed, over the hill by the Horniman and down to the Grove Tavern.

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rshdunlop


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10-06-2011 11:12 AM

Robin - that section is in East Dulwich, not Forest Hill.

If you read the article in the Times, there is the implication that FH is bumper to bumper all day, which just isn't true. Other sections of the South Circular, especially in more 'desirable' areas of South West London are much worse.

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robin orton


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10-06-2011 11:38 AM

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Robin - that section is in East Dulwich, not Forest Hill.

Well yes, part of it. 'Over the hill by the Horniman' was meant to cover the SE23 bit as well.

Quote:
If you read the article in the Times,....

I try to avoid reading the Murdoch press, but I'll take your word for it, Rachael.

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Cidered


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10-06-2011 12:09 PM

Despite the title of the article - "The view from the hill is bright" - it has a damning with faint praise feel to it e.g. "some worthwhile shops amid the grot".

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Londondrz


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10-06-2011 12:59 PM

Good, it will keep the trendies from buying here, Roz will be pleasedLaugh

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rshdunlop


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10-06-2011 01:07 PM

The article actually says so little I wonder why they bothered at all.

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brian


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10-06-2011 02:56 PM

I like the small section starting " Is their culture in Forest Hill ". I thought they would go on to mention Bird in Hand but no, it was Horniman Museum.
Such a small article might as well not bothered.

Roz would only be happy if article in Majesty magazine or Horse and Hounds

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dbboy


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Post: #12
10-06-2011 08:42 PM

Can someone post a copy of the article?

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rshdunlop


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10-06-2011 10:23 PM

Only if someone scans a paper copy. And it's really not worth it. I can summarise it for you: 'Forest Hill - meh.'

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Post: #14
11-06-2011 08:09 AM

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/life/prope...056271.ece

Ruth Bloomfield, The Times, 10 June 2011 Wrote:
Forest Hill - on the up?

Skips, coffee shops – could this suburb’s fate be at last about to change?

Almost exactly one year ago Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London, opened the East London Line extension, linking Forest Hill in southeast London to the Tube network.

Cue a clamour of overheated local speculation on just how far the new service might boost local property prices in an area previously overlooked in favour of its more chi chi neighbour, East Dulwich.

Just over a year on, however, and the “Tube bounce” has failed to materialise. While this might not be great news for residents looking to build equity, it does mean Forest Hill remains an affordable postcode for buyers seeking a spacious period property on a budget. And, from the increasingly familiar sight of skips parked outside fine Victorian villas to the arrival of a clutch of smart new coffee houses, it does seem that change is coming to this corner of southeast London.

Where is it?

Sandwiched between Sydenham and Honor Oak.

Transport

Canada Water is a 15-minute Tube journey, while you can be at London Bridge in 20 minutes by train. Unfortunately, the South Circular is jammed from dawn until dusk.

What’s the property like?

There is a great supply of period stock, particularly Victorian and Edwardian, as well as good-sized 1930s houses. Daniel Beckson, sales manager of Kinleigh Folkard & Hayward, says that a two-bedroom Victorian conversion would cost between £230,000 and £250,000, while a two-bedroom cottage costs from £320,000 to £330,000. Three-bedroom terraces or semis go for £350,000 to £380,000, while a four-bedroom detached Victorian house costs about £500,000.

The eastern side of Forest Hill, closer to East Dulwich, is the poshest place to live, with the best streets commanding a 25 per cent premium. Beckson hasn’t seen prices rise significantly since the arrival of the East London Line and says that while good streets are reaching 2007 prices, less favoured areas are still lagging.

And the high street?

Traditionally Forest Hill’s weakest link, locals have been pleased to note that it has been enhanced by the arrival in recent months of three new independent coffee houses. There are some worthwhile shops amid the grot; notably Bunka, with its cute clothes and fripperies, Stag & Bow, for crafts and haberdashery, Laurel’s Florist, and the junk shop Dapper. An artists’ community has been set up on Havelock Walk (havelockwalk.com), which holds regular events and open days.

Is there any culture?

The Horniman Museum is a world-class collection of historical, archaeological and zoological artefacts set in 16 acres of gardens.

Is it leafy?

Horniman Gardens has views over the capital, Mayow Park has a playground, bowling green and tennis courts. Crystal Palace and Sydenham Hill Wood are within walking distance.

What about eating and drinking?

Other than the recently renovated Dartmouth Arms, Forest Hill is a bit lacking gastronomically. The beautiful Art Deco The Capitol, once a cinema, has been restored and is now a Wetherspoons pub.

Are the schools any good?

Fairlawn Primary School is rated “excellent” by Ofsted, as is Eliot Bank Primary School. Schools rated “good” by Ofsted include Stillness Junior School and Horniman, Dalmain and Perrymount primary schools. For seniors there is Forest Hill School (boys) or Sydenham School (girls); both are considered “good”.

What’s new?

Gallions Housing Association (gallionsha.co.uk) is working on a new affordable development. The Forest Hill swimming baths, closed in 2005 on health and safety grounds, are due to reopen next year.

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Caro


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Post: #15
13-06-2011 08:05 AM

Seems a fair review...

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nottinghillbilly


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Post: #16
13-06-2011 07:48 PM

Yes I agree....as a newcomer to the 'hood' I would agree with much of what has been written[/i]

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Newbie


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Post: #17
15-06-2011 11:32 AM

Yep would agree its a fair unbiased assessment. There is still too much 'grot' on the high street.

Eating and Drinking options havent approved at all in the last 12 months which I think is the most important.

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poolsneighbour


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Post: #18
15-06-2011 11:41 AM

Agreed...too much grot - glad its noticed by a national newspaper, so some people on this forum who seem to 'love' the grot and do not want to see Forest Hill improve might stand up and take note! Thumbdown

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seeformiles


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Post: #19
15-06-2011 12:15 PM

Nobody anywhere said they liked grot. It shows your comprehension of those discussions is completely wrong.

What I and others have never liked is the unpleasant and blatant snobbery often evident on these forums and the refusal to accept that not everyone can afford or would use certain types of businesses, that what might suit some people may not be any use to others. Ultimately it would be nice to see a balance to suit everyone. That is not the same thing as 'liking grot.'

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robin orton


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Post: #20
15-06-2011 03:08 PM

Nowt wrong with a bit of grot. Helps keep house prices down.

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