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IWereAbsolutelyFuming


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06-06-2011 09:47 AM

Sigh, I should know better after years of getting involved in similar 'discussions...

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Who said we were blaming an entire group?
You say we shouldn't blame all cyclists, when we weren't.
And we're told that "the majority of cyclists" ride on the road. Whoever said otherwise? Read before you post.


There are a few comments in here that claim the majority of cyclists are at fault and suggestions such as licensing cyclists as a whole group explain why anyone who feels they are a cyclist has right to respond...

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Given all the other nonsense from many cyclists (not a minority), I would licence them.

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I'm all for encouraging proper cyclists, but they are becoming a minority.

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How about cyclists using the road? They're not forced onto the pavement. It's a choice they make because they are selfish or timid.

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it is usually completely ignored by fully grown "men" who use the (very narrow) pavement to cycle on.

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I would very much like to see cyclists respect the idea that pavements are foot paths.

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More and more I think the majority of cyclists spoil it for the minority.


Whether by implication or inference there are enough references there that support some people's view that all cyclists are being addressed.

Suggesting that cyclists are a hazard because they are "untrained, unlicenced and uninsured" is just bizarre. What training, licensing and insurance do we all hold that allows us to step outside our house and go about our business on foot? There is no evidence that cyclists are responsible for significant risk, injury or damage to themselves or others else there would be a compelling case to introduce some or all of those things. I've been knocked off my bike a number of times by pedestrians straying into the road. Three of these have been significant, causing more than £1,000 of damage to property and serious injury (which I'm still suffering the effects of 3 years since the worst). But do I want pedestrians trained, licensed and insured? No, because it is plainly ridiculous to do so.

Michael, there used to be a very useful TFL website/department called something like 'London Streets'. It contained details of all pavements on which cycling was permitted. Seems to have disappeared though. Sadly, not all are physically marked with signs like those alongside the South Circular from the Harvester towards Dulwich College.

All that said, I agree that cyclists should only cycle where they are permitted to do so, not jump red lights and crossings, etc, etc. I also happen to believe that most of us abide by those rules and acknowledge that a noticeable number do not.

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Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 30-05-2011, 10:15 AM
RE: Granny spinners - andrewr - 30-05-2011, 10:34 AM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 30-05-2011, 10:52 AM
RE: Granny spinners - seeformiles - 30-05-2011, 12:51 PM
RE: Granny spinners - brian - 30-05-2011, 02:45 PM
RE: Granny spinners - robin orton - 30-05-2011, 04:32 PM
RE: Granny spinners - shzl400 - 30-05-2011, 06:11 PM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 30-05-2011, 06:34 PM
RE: Granny spinners - roz - 30-05-2011, 07:47 PM
RE: Granny spinners - Jane_D - 30-05-2011, 10:17 PM
RE: Granny spinners - andrewr - 30-05-2011, 10:32 PM
RE: Granny spinners - Jane_D - 30-05-2011, 11:14 PM
RE: Granny spinners - Jane_D - 30-05-2011, 11:16 PM
RE: Granny spinners - seeformiles - 30-05-2011, 11:21 PM
RE: Granny spinners - michael - 31-05-2011, 08:26 AM
RE: Granny spinners - BT - 31-05-2011, 09:02 AM
RE: Granny spinners - brian - 31-05-2011, 09:08 AM
RE: Granny spinners - AMFM - 31-05-2011, 11:21 AM
RE: Granny spinners - Poppy9560 - 31-05-2011, 11:42 AM
RE: Granny spinners - Londondrz - 31-05-2011, 11:52 AM
RE: Granny spinners - Orchid - 31-05-2011, 04:50 PM
RE: Granny spinners - AMFM - 31-05-2011, 05:26 PM
RE: Granny spinners - seeformiles - 31-05-2011, 07:43 PM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 31-05-2011, 07:45 PM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 02-06-2011, 05:28 PM
RE: Granny spinners - Perryman - 03-06-2011, 12:35 AM
RE: Granny spinners - ryananglem - 03-06-2011, 09:06 AM
RE: Granny spinners - AMFM - 03-06-2011, 10:12 AM
RE: Granny spinners - Londondrz - 03-06-2011, 10:45 AM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 03-06-2011, 02:31 PM
RE: Granny spinners - AMFM - 03-06-2011, 03:14 PM
RE: Granny spinners - michael - 03-06-2011, 03:59 PM
RE: Granny spinners - ryananglem - 03-06-2011, 10:48 PM
RE: Granny spinners - john-f - 03-06-2011, 10:50 PM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 04-06-2011, 06:55 PM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 04-06-2011, 07:03 PM
RE: Granny spinners - Poppy9560 - 04-06-2011, 07:56 PM
RE: Granny spinners - ryananglem - 04-06-2011, 08:41 PM
RE: Granny spinners - seeformiles - 04-06-2011, 10:12 PM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 04-06-2011, 11:36 PM
RE: Granny spinners - seeformiles - 04-06-2011, 11:45 PM
RE: Granny spinners - Perryman - 05-06-2011, 02:30 AM
RE: Granny spinners - IWereAbsolutelyFuming - 06-06-2011 09:47 AM
RE: Granny spinners - Londondrz - 06-06-2011, 10:37 AM
RE: Granny spinners - nork1 - 06-06-2011, 01:12 PM
RE: Granny spinners - ryananglem - 06-06-2011, 01:42 PM
RE: Granny spinners - seeformiles - 06-06-2011, 01:48 PM
RE: Granny spinners - seeformiles - 06-06-2011, 01:55 PM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 06-06-2011, 04:45 PM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 06-06-2011, 04:54 PM
RE: Granny spinners - BT - 06-06-2011, 04:55 PM
RE: Granny spinners - robin orton - 06-06-2011, 10:50 PM
RE: Granny spinners - Jane_D - 06-06-2011, 11:01 PM
RE: Granny spinners - seeformiles - 07-06-2011, 12:46 AM
RE: Granny spinners - robin orton - 07-06-2011, 07:42 AM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 07-06-2011, 08:01 AM
RE: Granny spinners - Londondrz - 07-06-2011, 08:30 AM
RE: Granny spinners - michael - 07-06-2011, 08:59 AM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 07-06-2011, 09:33 AM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 07-06-2011, 10:54 AM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 07-06-2011, 11:15 AM
RE: Granny spinners - Brockley_Babe - 07-06-2011, 11:53 AM
RE: Granny spinners - Cellar Door - 07-06-2011, 12:07 PM
RE: Granny spinners - Perryman - 07-06-2011, 03:36 PM
RE: Granny spinners - michael - 07-06-2011, 03:54 PM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 07-06-2011, 04:25 PM
RE: Granny spinners - Cellar Door - 07-06-2011, 04:32 PM
RE: Granny spinners - michael - 07-06-2011, 05:44 PM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 07-06-2011, 07:36 PM
RE: Granny spinners - jollyrog - 07-06-2011, 08:48 PM
RE: Granny spinners - jollyrog - 07-06-2011, 08:54 PM
RE: Granny spinners - michael - 07-06-2011, 10:08 PM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 07-06-2011, 10:16 PM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 08-06-2011, 08:24 AM
RE: Granny spinners - michael - 08-06-2011, 09:02 AM
RE: Granny spinners - Cellar Door - 08-06-2011, 10:48 AM
RE: Granny spinners - Londondrz - 08-06-2011, 03:48 PM
RE: Granny spinners - ryananglem - 08-06-2011, 03:52 PM
RE: Granny spinners - Jane_D - 08-06-2011, 03:54 PM
RE: Granny spinners - Cellar Door - 08-06-2011, 04:08 PM
RE: Granny spinners - Jane_D - 08-06-2011, 04:17 PM
RE: Granny spinners - AMFM - 08-06-2011, 05:03 PM
RE: Granny spinners - Cellar Door - 08-06-2011, 05:40 PM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 09-06-2011, 10:16 AM
RE: Granny spinners - edd - 10-06-2011, 11:37 PM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 11-06-2011, 07:30 PM
RE: Granny spinners - brian - 11-06-2011, 07:37 PM
RE: Granny spinners - Applespider - 11-06-2011, 09:10 PM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 12-06-2011, 10:23 AM
RE: Granny spinners - Perryman - 12-06-2011, 01:55 PM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 12-06-2011, 04:08 PM
RE: Granny spinners - Applespider - 12-06-2011, 08:47 PM
RE: Granny spinners - hillsideresident - 13-06-2011, 05:04 PM
RE: Granny spinners - Applespider - 13-06-2011, 05:24 PM
RE: Granny spinners - seeformiles - 13-06-2011, 10:27 PM
RE: Granny spinners - ryananglem - 14-06-2011, 10:00 AM
RE: Granny spinners - ForestHillier - 14-06-2011, 10:58 AM
RE: Granny spinners - seeformiles - 14-06-2011, 11:12 AM
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