Hi rshdunlop,

Those are both horrid experiences for both those people and many others I imagine.

What this reminds me of is that either/or thinking around this issue, like so many other things in life, doesn't quite fit if you want to explore something with insight. It might work just to keep things simple. And helps newspapers, like The Telegraph amongst others, to write simple, easy to understand news articles but it washes out the complexity that is human nature.