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jon14


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14-04-2011 05:45 PM

Robin Orton wrote:
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Substitute homosexual for black and the argument is absolutely clear.
I don't think 'homosexual' and 'black' are absolutely interchangeable in this context. It is clearly wrong to discriminate against people for what they are. The traditional Christian teaching is not that gay people should be discriminated against for what they are (homosexually orientated) but that homosexual acts are wrong.

As I've said before, I have difficulties with this position, although I am a Christian. It implies that people with a homosexual orientation are. through no fault of their own, barred from giving sexual expression to a loving relationship with another person, which seems cruel. Jon thinks the answer is to try to change people's orientation. But I doubt whether that is possible in more than a very few cases, and, even if it is, I find the idea rather distasteful.


I didn't actually say that Robin - just stating that there are people who have changed their sexuality (both ways) - and not just people who say 'they found their true self', but people who say they changed from one to the other. If we could substitute homosexual for black, the argument is absolutely clear, but I don't think we can.

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Congratulations to France. - brian - 11-04-2011, 04:14 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - michael - 11-04-2011, 04:45 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - brian - 11-04-2011, 07:27 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - michael - 11-04-2011, 09:32 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - roz - 11-04-2011, 09:47 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - brian - 12-04-2011, 10:00 AM
RE: Congratulations to France. - Londondrz - 12-04-2011, 10:54 AM
RE: Congratulations to France. - roz - 12-04-2011, 11:56 AM
RE: Congratulations to France. - brian - 12-04-2011, 12:14 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - jon14 - 12-04-2011, 12:26 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - danwoods - 12-04-2011, 12:27 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - michael - 12-04-2011, 12:45 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - brian - 12-04-2011, 12:48 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - Baboonery - 12-04-2011, 12:49 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - jon14 - 12-04-2011, 11:05 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - brian - 12-04-2011, 11:16 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - brian - 13-04-2011, 11:49 AM
RE: Congratulations to France. - jon14 - 14-04-2011, 11:03 AM
RE: Congratulations to France. - Baboonery - 14-04-2011, 01:19 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - spud - 14-04-2011, 01:54 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - jon14 - 14-04-2011, 02:03 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - jon14 - 14-04-2011, 04:10 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - brian - 14-04-2011, 04:43 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - brian - 14-04-2011, 05:04 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - jon14 - 14-04-2011, 05:21 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - jon14 - 14-04-2011 05:45 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - Baboonery - 15-04-2011, 09:42 AM
RE: Congratulations to France. - jon14 - 16-04-2011, 02:44 PM
RE: Congratulations to France. - squashst - 16-04-2011, 08:15 PM