You could always jump on the P4 when you get to Ladywell

Those of you who live at the Horniman end of FH may want to try East or North Dulwich stations then get the bus.

Crofton Park is also an alternative for HOP if you change at Peckham Rye from LB.

Southern Metro station manager Barry Jones posted this explanation about yesterday's delays over on EDF.

I thought that mainline trains were every ten minutes. But I missed the 18.32 from Brockley and the next one was 18.50.

Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but despite what the timetable might say, the last train from Canada Water is at 2345 Monday to Saturday (according to the person who answered the help point).

No idea what happened to that 0017 Friday service - apparently I've just been "misinformed" :/

No London Overground services on our line at present - as per TfL website at 1542:

"Services are suspended between Dalston Junction and West Croydon/Crystal Palace due to a vehicle hitting a bridge in the Surrey Quays area.

London Underground and Southern will accept tickets by any reasonable route"

The ELL is back with severe delays:

http://realtime.nationalrail.co.uk/ldb/s...aspx?T=FOH

The ELL was out again southbound (as were Southern Trains) from around 10.30 last night due to a fatality at Anerley. Took them ages to let people on the platform know, though (at New Cross). Added to this misery, there were apparently 3 separate broken down trains, one on the Jubilee Line (which meant no trains at Canary Wharf for around 15 minutes, and a crowded platform), one on the Central Line, and one on the District Line.

ELL usage has apparently reached 45,000 passengers per day according to TfL. They are very pleased with the take up, but will be analysing the usage figures to try and determine who has not yet heard about the travel possibilities offered by the London Overground service and do more to spread the word.

The mainline (Southern) service is 6tph during the morning peak, but this drops off to 4tph after 10:00

On the Brockley Central blog, they're running a poll where they claim 70% of passengers who use Brockley station are now using the ELL with 30% remaining with Southern which is staggering.

Probably because there is only space for 30% to push their way on to the LB bound trains?

I reckon nearly all commuters who use the ELL change at Canada Water or Whitechapel.

I've used the line to Shoreditch High St (SHS) as an alternative route into work. The trains are packed after New Cross Gate and then ~90% get off at Canada Water. Then the rest get off at Whitechapel. After that, there's hardly anyone on the train - you would think it was Sunday 3pm and not Monday 8am.

The Jubilee was out of service when I arrived at Canada Water this morning, so went to Whitechapel where I caught the H&C. Only arrived 5 mins late. I can't imagine how long it'd take me if I was stuck at London Bridge?

As for Whitechapel itself, it can't handle the sheer amount of passengers changing from the ELL to the District/H&C platforms with the narrow passageways.

Canada Water's southbound platform is always busy during the evening peak, especially in the 10 min gap between trains back to FH.

Does anyone know whether there are plans to increase the options for changing from northbound overground to jubilee line at Canada Water? In the morning peak (8.15- 8.45ish), the crush of at least 50% of the overground trying to get down the single escalator to the jubilee is a little scary.

It may be worth contacting London Underground who manage Canada Water station to suggest it to them.

An idea may be to have both sets of escalators on the northbound platform to go down to the Jubilee in the morning peak.

The issues was raised with TfL a couple of years before the ELL was extended. The response was that they were aware that there would be crowding using the single escalator (and lifts that go between platforms via surface level ticket office), but that there were no plans to improve the interchange at the station. If I remember correctly they also felt that because the trains were only four carriages there was a limit to the number of people who would find themselves in a queue, and that the queue would clear well before the next train would arrive.

I think they actually prefer the bottleneck to occur before the escalators as this avoids large numbers of people suddenly arriving on a platform and trying to jump through the same train doors at the same time.

Arriving at Canada Water from HOP, the lift (well hidden on the side of the platform) only leads up to the ticket hall. Anyone not able to use the crowded escalator has to go up to the ticket hall, then walk to the other escalator to take the central escalator down to the Jubilee Line from what I can see (let me know if I'm wrong and there is one...) There does seem to be an emergency staircase (which is for emergency use only and locked otherwise). Considering the station was only built a few years ago, it's amazing how they couldn't integrate wheelchair access etc. more successfully and have a staircase in addition (as is the case on the other platforms there).

And the only reason why people haven't fallen on the escalators yet during the morning rush hour is probably because it's too packed for them to move more than 2 inches in the first place. A safety precaution of sorts, I suppose...although it does make for very good entertainment to watch some people rush out of the train and run towards that escalator in the morning...

Muss said:

Shadwell is also becoming a more popular interchange, however, as there is only one Tower Gateway train every ten minutes it is often better to stay on till Whitechapel if you are heading to Tower Hill (this is not so relevant for Bank/Monument!).

When the ELL connects to Highbury & Islington, I suspect that more people will continue past Whitechapel.

Now if only they could make all the 'New Cross' trains head to West Croydon or Palace instead..!

It's frustrating seeing a New Cross train pull up at Canada Water with around 5 people on it when you have a crowded platform full of people waiting for a train for the CP and West Croydon branches.

The Crystal Palace branch service is the best bet of a seat as I've found the West Croydon services which arrive after a 10 min gap are busy.

Yes who told everyone about the ELL ????

The service is excellent but I hardly get a seat anymore.