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showtunesgirl


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Post: #501
12-10-2009 12:01 PM

I actually think that hitting each station would be more effective. Also we wouldn't have to be concerened about legalities as you flyer people as they are walking into the station, not on the platform itself.

I think if you flyer these people as they are getting onto their already packed morning trains, we'd get a response fast.

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Foresters


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Joined: May 2006
Post: #502
12-10-2009 12:13 PM

I do agree - it's just the logistics involved.

Looking at the timetables for the Caterham train, I do think the direct CHX evening service is still the most efficient way to get home all along this line, so all the stations should be flyered to get maximum support.

If it could start to CHX an hour or so earlier, into the bargain - that would be perfect!

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michael


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Post: #503
12-10-2009 01:05 PM

We are working across the line to organise flyers for the stations, but not this week. However, the Meet the Manager session is too good a chance to miss. I have the email addresses of over 1,200 people who have already signed the petition. If a good number of these people stop for 10-15 minutes we will be able to demonstrate to Southern Railway a taste of the strength of feeling.

Please stop by this Thursday (15th October) from 7:30am - 9:30am on the concourse at London Bridge, and ask some of the questions mentioned here.

The South London Press will also be including an article before the Meet the Manager session, which may help to attract some more people, they will also be sending along a photographer for an article in next week's paper. John Russell has arranged for Caroline Pidgeon to be present (GLA Assembly Member and chair of the transport committee), and we will be inviting other politicians.

This week I need to focus on Meet the Managers, Lewisham Transport Marketplace for Local Assemblies, and the FH Society AGM. Next week we will try to start the flyering of all local stations and will be asking for volunteers again.

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Tinkerbell


Posts: 361
Joined: Dec 2007
Post: #504
12-10-2009 01:16 PM

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Gaz


Posts: 86
Joined: Jul 2008
Post: #505
12-10-2009 06:47 PM

I really think we need to start undertaking more direct actions very shortly so well done and thanks for all your time and effort on getting things organised, Michael (and others). Thumbup

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Ghis


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Joined: Jan 2007
Post: #506
12-10-2009 07:55 PM

I am sitting in the 19:37 and every one around me now knows and checking the Forest Hill Society website to find the petition on their phone. Technology at its best! Got the people in the carriage talking a lot!

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se23northener


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Joined: Jan 2008
Post: #507
13-10-2009 08:44 AM

Latest reply from Southern, which just says the same as they did in their last letter to me. They avoid the issue - that I pointed out to them - that Southeastern are not going to be running any extra trains at all.

Quote:
Thank you for your letter of September 24 from which I understand that you still have concerns regarding the removal of Southern services to London Charing Cross station.

Southern's view of how the train service on this route should be developed is on record, on the South London RUS (Route Utilisation Strategy) consultation web site:

http://www.networkrail.co.uk/browse%20do...uthern.pdf

Our response was considered with all others to inform the specification the Department for Transport requires us to operate. This specification had to fit around their specification for the Southeastern franchise that resulted in no pathways being available to operate to and from Charing Cross.

I should point out though that part of our response for when the Thameslink Programme is completed, and when work at London Bridge is completed has resulted in four trains per hour direct to and from Thameslink stations; however, this will not until 2016 when the infrastructure will be in place.

I hope this clarifies things further for you, but would be happy to advise further if necessary.


Am still chasing DfT for a response, since they seem to be at the heart of all this.

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Foresters


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Joined: May 2006
Post: #508
13-10-2009 09:55 AM

se23northener wrote:
Am still chasing DfT for a response, since they seem to be at the heart of all this.

A job for Mr Dowd I would have thought?

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se23northener


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Joined: Jan 2008
Post: #509
13-10-2009 10:52 AM

You're right, Foresters. My MP is Joan Ruddock, who I have written to asking for her to approach the DfT, but have had no response from her so far.

Anyone want to volunteer to ask Mr Dowd to approach DfT as well?

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showtunesgirl


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Joined: Feb 2008
Post: #510
13-10-2009 10:55 AM

If you really want to speak to Joan Ruddock she does run open surgeries: http://www.joanruddock.org/index.php?id=29

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Foresters


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Joined: May 2006
Post: #511
13-10-2009 11:09 AM

I went looking for Jim Dowd's surgery times...

Quote:
Page Not Found - error 404
The requested URL was not found on this server
Requested URL: http://www.jimdowd.org.uk/working_hard_for_you

!

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NewForester


Posts: 379
Joined: Feb 2008
Post: #512
13-10-2009 11:37 AM

Looks like his whole site is down. However, from the cached version at Google:

Quote:
To contact Jim Dowd MP you can write to him at

Jim Dowd MP
43 Sunderland Road
Forest Hill
London
SE23 2PS
email jimdowd.newlabour@care4free.net
Phone/Fax 020 8699 2001
Information Line 020 8291 5607


Westminster

Jim Dowd MP
House of Commons
London
SW1A 0AA
Phone 020 7219 4617
Fax 020 7219 2686
WHEN CONTACTING JIM DOWD BY E-MAIL PLEASE ENSURE THAT YOU INCLUDE YOUR FULL HOME ADDRESS IN ORDER THAT HE CAN CONFIRM THAT YOU LIVE WITHIN THE LEWISHM WEST CONSTITUENCY
Surgery Details

Regular monthly advice surgeries are held throughout the constituency (except August) as follows:

2nd Friday
Naborhood Centre, Sydenham Road, SE26, 6.00pm ? 7.30pm

2nd Saturday
Labour Party Office, 43 Sunderland Road, SE23, 10.00am ? 12 noon

4th Friday
Lewisham Town Hall, Catford Road, SE6, 6.00pm ? 7.30pm

4th Saturday
Bellingham Housing Office, Randlesdown Road, SE6, 10.00am ? 12 noon

No appointments are necessary.

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Gaz


Posts: 86
Joined: Jul 2008
Post: #513
13-10-2009 05:51 PM

Boris is currently undertaking a Trasport Consultation where you can give online (and by other means) feedback:

http://mts.tfl.gov.uk/documents/FE0089_A...-ques.aspx

http://www.london.gov.uk/shaping-london/


It doesn't fully address the concerns of us in SE London but gives a further opportunity for us to demand our train services are not reduced.

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michael


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Joined: Mar 2005
Post: #514
14-10-2009 10:57 AM

There will be coverage in London's newest free paper either today or tomorrow.

Please join us at London Bridge station tomorrow morning - 0730-0930. Close to the escalators to the underground from the exits for platforms 8-16.

And if you are brave, speak to people on the train this evening and tomorrow morning, and us them to join us.

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Londondrz


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Joined: Apr 2006
Post: #515
14-10-2009 11:18 AM

Having been forced to use the trains again due to the selfishness of a drunk driver I am slightly aggitated at the prospect of being crammed on an evening train on my way home.

I will be the very vocal person their tomorrow wearing a suit with one brogue and one white plimsole.Cursing

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showtunesgirl


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Joined: Feb 2008
Post: #516
14-10-2009 11:21 AM

I caught the 1824 yesterday and it was horrible. Completely rammed to the hilt.

Luckily tomorrow I am exiting at platforms 8-16 so will be able to speak to the Managers.

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Ghis


Posts: 321
Joined: Jan 2007
Post: #517
14-10-2009 11:38 AM

Mentioned it in my carriage on the 23:07 from Charing Cross last night. Hopefully you will get a few more signatures.

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Gaz


Posts: 86
Joined: Jul 2008
Post: #518
14-10-2009 12:44 PM

Showgirl:

Quote:
I caught the 1824 yesterday and it was horrible. Completely rammed to the hilt.

Luckily tomorrow I am exiting at platforms 8-16 so will be able to speak to the Managers.

I tried to get on the 1820 (at 1815) but couldn't so whizzed over to the 1824. This also became completely rammed within minutes.

It's incredible to think that if these two trains 4 minutes apart are both rammed what it will be like if they are 15 minutes apart... Cursing

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Gaz


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Joined: Jul 2008
Post: #519
14-10-2009 12:45 PM

(Quoted reply was from Showtunesgirl - sorry!)

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roz


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Joined: Mar 2005
Post: #520
14-10-2009 06:18 PM

I no longer commute but would otherwise be joining you tomorrow. Best of luck.

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