Refering to your comment on an asbo for these individuals. My cousin used to work for Lewisham council and she told me that these banning orders are only really enforced against people who have a history of violence or street gang affiliation, not drunks. Very public spirited of you roz but you only have to look at catford and lewisham to see where the police's attention is focused. I don't think anything's going to happen soon but I hope you prove me wrong.