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Ian Tomlinson
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02-08-2010 02:18 PM

It's a bit concerning that you seem to be basing your "facts" upon innaccurate information about police accepting responsibility for death ins custody et al. and a tiny portion of a wider incident you saw on youtube or the telly...bottom line is the protesters, a significant number of whom were not there to protest peacfully but to cause trouble, pushed the police to a horrendous straining point and their job is hard enough as it is - they didn't have the time, inclination or responsibilty to mollycuddle every one in the area or check to see if they are protesters, drunk, sober or whatever. Mr Tomlinson was, as I understand it, a chronic alcoholic who was drunk on the day and had already disobeyed a police request to move on that eventually required 4 riot officers to move him (20 mins or so before the filmed incident) because he was being very belligerent - the Guardian won't report that though because it's just not sensational enough. I think we need the full facts of the case - but the press are sensation hungry monsters who will only show you what they want you to see... and that seems to be that the police are bad people who go around murdering people for no reason whatsoever...a view propogated by your spurious allegations and inaccurate and unsubstaniated reporting on police accountability in civilian deaths - I've yet to see a single protester say "actually, we kinda contributed to his death by being unable to protest repsonsibly, or hurling abuse at the police, smashing in windows and attacking innocent people - taking away very valuable resources from a a police presence we had already stretched to the max"... but hey, that's just my view

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Ian Tomlinson - ForestHillier - 23-07-2010, 09:38 AM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - Snazy - 23-07-2010, 10:01 AM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - Redalways - 24-07-2010, 09:50 AM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - dbboy - 24-07-2010, 10:17 AM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - Poppy9560 - 24-07-2010, 11:31 AM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - Redalways - 24-07-2010, 02:01 PM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - lillam - 25-07-2010, 12:00 PM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - roz - 01-08-2010, 02:37 PM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - malcs - 02-08-2010 02:18 PM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - sandy - 02-08-2010, 02:30 PM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - roz - 02-08-2010, 08:00 PM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - malcs - 03-08-2010, 12:12 PM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - roz - 03-08-2010, 09:18 PM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - Redalways - 03-08-2010, 10:38 PM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - malcs - 04-08-2010, 08:10 AM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - malcs - 04-08-2010, 09:11 AM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - michael - 04-08-2010, 10:27 AM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - malcs - 04-08-2010, 10:46 AM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - Redalways - 04-08-2010, 11:27 AM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - malcs - 04-08-2010, 11:45 AM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - michael - 04-08-2010, 12:02 PM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - michael - 04-08-2010, 12:05 PM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - malcs - 04-08-2010, 12:32 PM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - malcs - 04-08-2010, 12:37 PM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - michael - 04-08-2010, 01:19 PM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - malcs - 04-08-2010, 01:52 PM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - Redalways - 04-08-2010, 05:21 PM
RE: Ian Tomlinson - roz - 04-08-2010, 08:33 PM