Shzl with regard to your other points that rat running occurs only when the journey is quicker, ....well I suspect the journey is quicker rat running through Devonshire rd evenfor the people sitting in the queue as they are missing out on all the traffic lights in Forest Hill centre. If it was not quicker I suspect they would not do it. You earlier stated that that main route needed to be speeded up so I suspect it is actually quicker for the drivers to sit in a queue in Devonshire Rd rather than stick to the South Circular through route. I wonder if you have some suggestions to speed up the south circular abd deal with the congestion? I am glad for you that things seemed ok when you sped along in your car with the width of the road and the parked cars etc but the issue is about more than the convenience of car drivers .....it involves pollution, both air and noise....quality of journey for pedestrians......quality of journey for cyclists etc and quality of life for all those living on the dside roads feeding into Devonshire Rd.