Shzl, i have all along, if you examine my posts, distinguished that there are different interests among the many groups of people who live in the area and I have mentioned on many occassions that traffic calming may inconvenience car drivers, some of whom would accept the inconvenience for a better environment and some of whom would be unhappy. I merely make the point that many residents do not own a car at all and many who do do not use it on a daily basis. In your post you state that traffic calming would be detrimental to the residents of the road, you do not say detrimental to some residents of the road so the implicit assumption is that everyone owns a car, or would be against traffic calming. I merely state traffic calming would not be detrimental to all residents, as I believe many residents do not own a car or use one as often as you seem to. It is not the case that I think I know more about the area than you. I would be very very happy if a fiull scale consulatation of all the residents of all the roads was carried out to find the best solution for everyone.