I have given up on this debate, which eventually comes up in any thread that talks about pubs. There are some people that just hate kids. No matter what the behaviour. You know what. I drank and ate in pubs when I was childless and I eat and drink in pubs now that I have a child. I have, on occasion frequented (in no particular order, or frequency) The Capital, the Dartmouth Arms, the Honor Oak, the Perry Hill, the Bird in Hand, Question, Prince of Wales and the Railway Tavern. I have on occasion seen children in these establishments, I have even (GOD FORBID!) heard them. But I have never had any child distrupt my own enjoyment of any establishment. I have a feeling that this is not because I have never visted a pub with unrurley children, but because I do not hate children.
Grow up. The same people the lamanet the demise of the local pub tend to be the same people who cry "ohhhh, but there were kids in there! boo hoo hoo". Pubs will close if they don't make money. And loney old men drinking cheap lager sitting in a pool of their own urine does not signal a successful pub.
Rant over. take your shots!
So one can only dislike unruly children if one hates children? Otherwise unruliness is fine? Your attempts to rationalise your own selfish behaviour are logically inept.
If you've never had a child disrupt your enjoyment of a pub then I suggest you haven't been in a pub for 10 years. Your 'soaked in your own urine' comment about anyone who dares to commit the dreadful crime of not having children is pathetic.
Ummm, huh? Trust me I have never quizzed incontinent old men on whether they have children or not. You knowledge of 'my own selfish behaviour" is interesting. Are you spying on me? Did you catch me stealing a extra chocolate out of the advent calendar? What in the world are you on about?
And I have been in many pubs in the past ten years. I have seen children behaving well and I have seen children behaving not so well. What I have not seen is mobs of rioting children destroying the afternoons of childless drinkers.
Whenever a pub thread appears enevitably someone starts with "this pub would be ok if IT WEREN'T FOR THE CHILDREN! ARRRRR!."
Please, really? The 'old men' comment was meant to be a funny way or describing the old-schol type, patterned rug, old men at the bar type drinking establishments (and I have seen some men who have been sitting in their own urine--You are the one who made the connection of childless people and bladder control. Which frankly, I have a higher opinion of the childless)
Those types of pubs are dying out for good reason. And I would rather sit next to a family, who may have a toddler who is louder than need be, then sit in a dank, bleak, dark, urine smelling hell hole.
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