I used to catch the P4 every morning from HOP to Canary Wharf but it got so bad that I decided to boycott it and now walk over the Stanstead Road and get either the 185 or 122. The main problem was the length of time I used to have to wait, combined with the fact that it often didn't stop, on many occasions despite not being full, but rather because everyone would congregate round the door and refuse to move down. It was so frustrating especially when it would sail past and it was obvious that there were seats at the back. If it did stop, I would often end up squeezed on (as people resolutely ignored my please to move down) and then have to hang on for dear life while it was driven at breakneck speed through Ladywell. Surely there is a case for a more frequent service at peaks times. I'm assuming a double decker is out of the quesion due to the route?

I still get it home in the evening from Lewisham, if it comes before a 185 and at least I get a seat, even if I have had to wait ages watching other buses come and go (usually Metrobus rather than Selkent...). But it is still regularly driven way too fast and with zero regard for safety of the many standing passengers. I once nearly dislocated my shoulder when a driver had to brake far too hard to stop as he was going too fast. Have complained on a few occasions when I managed to get the bus details but doesn't seem to have made any difference.

I also got my purse stolen out of my handbag as I boarded a P4 at Lewisham (was actually stood on the bus at the time in the crush of people trying to get on). Despite there supposedly being CCTV on the bus and me knowing who did it, they weren't caught.

So, I am not a fan, which is a real shame as the service could be a real asset.