Since the return of Baggy Dave and his much missed humorous contributions and the arrival of a new wave of jokers on this forum I thought your first post was a joke Ooperlooper. Even if one is tempted to pragmatically follow your arguments they simply are brutal. Chop a hand off? What about amputate a foot, extract one?s eye, chop one?s ear, extract one?s tongue and teeth (I am sure all kind Mafia?s bosses would reassure you this has been successfully used for a long time)? You know, the good old system, eye for eye?????.