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Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone
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Snazy


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29-08-2009 10:24 AM

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But without enforcement it is pointless and there are no enforcement powers beyond the speed humps which, as you point out from cars breaking the speed limit on Ewelme Road, does not stop speeding. I would be all in favour of 20mph speed cameras outside Fairlawn, but this will remain a 30mph road and there will be no additional controls beyond advisory signs which make no difference on Church Rise or Westbourne Drive.

What would make the roads like Ewelme, Horniman, Westwood safer would be mirrors so you can see round bends and over hills. No plans for any speed cameras or mirrors in this consultation.


My feelings exactly.
Without enforcement there is in fact no lower limit. Signs, humps equate to nothing.
To be honest the speed of cars on Church Rise has not changed at all, apart for lowered cars, which have slight difficulty with the cushions.

Given the choice of having the "traffic calming" or not having it on Church Rise, I would have to say NO to it.

Reason being, due to cars being able to straddle the cushions, and the lay out of the cushions, not only are the cars doing 30-40mph down the hill, but they slalom and swerve all the way down the road now. To me.. more dangerous NOT less!

I agree that some roads are high risk, and need managing. But to be fair, rather than spending a couple of thousand per cushion or whatever it is these days, and imposing a speed limit which CANNOT be enforced, I would rather see the money put into an enforcement pot and enforce a zero tolerance zone around vunerable areas.

That way there is some return for the money spent, there is a punishment for people flaunting the speed limits around schools, and more to the point, if 32 would result in a ticket, points and a fine, people would drive in these areas at SUB 30mph almost making the lower limit enforcable.

I hope all that makes sense.

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Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - NewForester - 20-08-2009, 02:45 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - michael - 20-08-2009, 05:12 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - brian - 21-08-2009, 01:34 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 21-08-2009, 05:43 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Perryman - 22-08-2009, 12:03 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 23-08-2009, 06:35 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Perryman - 23-08-2009, 07:59 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 23-08-2009, 09:12 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Perryman - 24-08-2009, 12:20 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - AMFM - 24-08-2009, 10:26 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - SophieBee - 24-08-2009, 10:36 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 24-08-2009, 10:48 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - NewForester - 24-08-2009, 02:39 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Perryman - 25-08-2009, 03:06 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - AMFM - 25-08-2009, 05:31 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - shzl400 - 26-08-2009, 07:51 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - roz - 26-08-2009, 08:18 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - michael - 26-08-2009, 09:32 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - notstoppin - 27-08-2009, 01:22 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - notstoppin - 27-08-2009, 03:46 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - michael - 27-08-2009, 05:06 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - gingernuts - 28-08-2009, 11:27 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - kipya - 28-08-2009, 12:26 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - roz - 28-08-2009, 02:13 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - gingernuts - 28-08-2009, 02:18 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - michael - 28-08-2009, 03:42 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - NewForester - 28-08-2009, 06:09 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Perryman - 29-08-2009, 02:52 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 29-08-2009 10:24 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - carole - 30-08-2009, 05:19 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - borderpaul - 30-08-2009, 08:13 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - carole - 30-08-2009, 08:58 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 31-08-2009, 08:43 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 31-08-2009, 08:45 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Foresters - 31-08-2009, 09:12 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - shzl400 - 01-09-2009, 09:55 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - michael - 01-09-2009, 10:22 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - ForestGump - 01-09-2009, 12:36 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 01-09-2009, 02:06 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 01-09-2009, 02:09 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - michael - 01-09-2009, 02:20 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 01-09-2009, 02:37 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - shzl400 - 01-09-2009, 03:44 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 01-09-2009, 04:08 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - michael - 01-09-2009, 04:44 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 01-09-2009, 05:05 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - michael - 02-09-2009, 07:58 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - BT - 03-09-2009, 07:25 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Londondrz - 03-09-2009, 10:32 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - andrewr - 03-09-2009, 09:01 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 03-09-2009, 09:41 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Londondrz - 04-09-2009, 10:30 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Ghis - 04-09-2009, 01:00 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 04-09-2009, 02:19 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Johnc - 04-09-2009, 02:23 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 04-09-2009, 05:26 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Londondrz - 04-09-2009, 06:45 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 04-09-2009, 07:10 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - andrewr - 04-09-2009, 08:34 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - shzl400 - 05-09-2009, 12:33 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - michael - 11-09-2009, 02:03 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - brian - 11-09-2009, 03:32 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - andrewr - 12-09-2009, 11:02 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - roz - 12-09-2009, 02:47 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - andrewr - 12-09-2009, 07:04 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - roz - 12-09-2009, 11:10 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - michael - 16-09-2009, 02:16 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 17-09-2009, 10:17 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Tinkerbell - 18-09-2009, 11:16 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 18-09-2009, 03:41 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - NewForester - 16-10-2009, 09:41 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Londondrz - 16-10-2009, 09:51 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - shzl400 - 16-10-2009, 11:47 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - NewForester - 16-10-2009, 12:07 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Londondrz - 16-10-2009, 02:24 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - michael - 16-10-2009, 02:55 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 16-10-2009, 02:59 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - NewForester - 16-10-2009, 03:35 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - roz - 16-10-2009, 04:32 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 16-10-2009, 04:48 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - michael - 16-10-2009, 09:37 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Londondrz - 17-10-2009, 09:11 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - shzl400 - 17-10-2009, 05:08 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - roz - 18-10-2009, 08:23 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - michael - 18-10-2009, 10:26 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - roz - 18-10-2009, 10:59 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Perryman - 19-10-2009, 12:07 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - NewForester - 19-10-2009, 12:37 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - shzl400 - 19-10-2009, 06:30 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Perryman - 19-10-2009, 08:55 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - annsquire66 - 28-10-2009, 08:58 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - junegapi - 29-10-2009, 10:07 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - annsquire66 - 29-10-2009, 10:50 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - NewForester - 29-10-2009, 02:56 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Londondrz - 27-01-2010, 03:27 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 29-01-2010, 11:57 AM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Londondrz - 29-01-2010, 01:02 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Snazy - 29-01-2010, 03:03 PM
RE: Forest Hill 20 MPH Zone - Londondrz - 02-02-2010, 11:10 AM
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