Brian, you don't need to apologise for posting and I'm sorry if certain individuals make you feel that way. We don't often agree ourselves but se23.com would be a duller place without you.

The comments about what happened in ROI having no applicability in the UK are interesting following the revelation today of young girls being forcibly drugged in C of E Childrens Homes in Kent and allegations of yet another cover up by a mighty institution. Many of these young women- at least one of whom was drugged over 1000 times, went on to have children with birth defects. Please do not therefore try and tell me that religious institutions and their associated homes and schools in the UK are free from sordidness. I suspect there will be more to come.

I'm sorry if I come across as prejudiced against organised child abuse and other crimes against humanity such as obstructing progress in the fight against HIV/AIDS in developing countries. 40 lashes for me then!