I have lived in the se4 - se23 area for nearly 5 years and i have seen the area develop hugely, Yune, Thai Orchid, the Honor Oak, Tapastry, Lemon grove, this area is a great area and we should stop whining about it - as someone from outside this area (ohhh by 300 miles...) this has one of the greatest sense of community I have experienced in London - put it this way - in 8 year in and about London, SE23 is the only place I know my neighbours, people over the road, people at the end of the road, local shop and bar... we all need to be more area proud - SE23 is a grand place to live. I could not imagine wanting to live anywhere else in London (even if I won the lottery!)