Yes JGD. I was shocked that in a difficult thread where a moderator should be doing just that Londondrz would come out with such a brazen lie. We, JGD, are just two of an unknown number who have been banned. Oh and not because of anything on se23.life - 'cos I hadn't posted there in yonks - but because Chris doesn't like me and is also prepared to lie through his teeth to try and get others to join his personal crusade.

I'll be clear - I don't want either of them banned from se23.life. I find their posts insightful and instructive of their worldview. But neither can be trusted. They are both 'strangers to truth' even if they are unable to realise that themselves.

Forums should be for vigorous debate. Moderation can be challenging. But if you can't trust the ref - if he is ignoring blatant penalties on one side but is party to red-carding other folks while still on the bench - then there is a problem. I don't want se23.life to go down (sorry to this Admin) and I hope the new SE23.life Admin thinks this through. It isn't the rules/guidelines that are the problem. Its the way they have been refereed.

I hope when they have reflected on what many of the existing users have said - a new leaf can be turned and all the mod team can all seen to be open, fair and honest. I know many are doing their best and putting in thankless hours for the community. It's a shame their good work should be undermined by any who are not.

They may also reflect on why this is being posted here and not there.

Stuart