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On a light note if you are doing your tax return like me,.
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P1971


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18-01-2016 11:28 PM

Enjoy music, it makes it much easier 👌

http://linkis.com/www.youtube.com/abq4u

Have a fab evening all Xxx

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Bt


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19-01-2016 08:33 AM

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P1971


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19-01-2016 10:12 AM

Sorry if you didn't like my choice of music BT, it's just what I was listening to at the time :-)

And it's that time of year when lots of people are panicking to get their tax return done on time.

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21-01-2016 01:43 AM

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P1971


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21-01-2016 09:53 AM

This link is a very interesting read, I've only managed to read part of it but am looking forward to reading the rest of it!

Luckily for me I love my job because in a normal working week I don't get to have a relaxing lie-in any day of the week as I work 6 days a week and on my day off (Monday) it's a School day so I'm still up at 6.45am to get my son organised for School on time.

I wonder what these unemployed people that are fit and of working age do with their time...

It would be nice to think that they do a lot of voluntary work in the community while looking for work, maybe this should be compulsory for those entitled to free housing and if they don't do it then why should they have free housing if they're not giving anything back in return...

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sandy


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21-01-2016 10:43 AM

Section 3 of this report makes interesting reading about possible reasons for the high incidence of unemployment, one of which is simply that there is limited social housing and it is only those with the most need that are so housed. As always there are complex issues around the topic.

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Anotherjohn


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21-01-2016 10:57 AM

I can't work out how limited social housing would result in high unemployment.

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sandy


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21-01-2016 11:27 AM

It doesn't result in it. It simply reflects that social housing is limited to the poorest and those with the most acute needs. That is what I understand from one point the report makes in Part 3.

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21-01-2016 11:37 AM

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sandy


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21-01-2016 11:44 AM

But we don't live in a socialist state and I was simply referring to what the report you referred to suggests about the complexities around such issues.

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21-01-2016 12:40 PM

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sandy


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21-01-2016 02:43 PM

If we were in a socialist state the steelworkers would not be losing their jobs as the community would own the means of production, distribution and exchange. It could be said that ours is a social democracy but the present government is working on dismantling much that represents that.

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P1971


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21-01-2016 03:43 PM

This is something that baffles me!

Quite often I see people pulling up outside my shop in decent cars that look new or newish to me (although I must admit I don't know much about cars), going in to the job centre across the road and coming back about 20-30 mins later. I'm assuming they must be signing on because if they were working there or having a meeting I'm sure it would take longer than this.

If this is the case what puzzles me is how they can afford to pay for and run (insurance, car tax etc) a decent car if they are not working...

I also often wonder why a lot of people going in to the job centre can afford the latest fashionable clothes & trainers which I know are expensive...

Okay some might have just lost their jobs, but surely not the amount I've seen otherwise I must be from another planet Unsure

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ForestHillier


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21-01-2016 03:47 PM

they are parasites - ok have a welfare state for those who do fall on hard times, yet not for a career path that lasts form cradle to grave

An old work college of mine - his daughter meet someone who is now 29 and has never done a days work in his life, they had 3 kids,so got a nice 2 bedroom council house which they said was 2 small - so they were handed foc a 3 bedroom one, lovely work

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ForestHillier


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21-01-2016 03:56 PM

We need someone like Maggie back - totally agree with you.

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sandy


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21-01-2016 04:06 PM

The point I was making is that we do not live in a socialist or, come to that, communist, system as you suggested. I was not making any comment about the positive or negative aspects of any particular system.

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robin orton


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21-01-2016 07:13 PM

'On a light note....'?

This part of the forum is beginning to get a bit like the notorious 'Town Pub' on the Sydenham Town Forum, which is now accessible only to registered users, because its tone was upsetting casual visitors.

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squashst


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21-01-2016 07:32 PM

Don't know about whether it is socialist or not, but its not an overly democratic country. Majority Conservative Government with what 37% of votes (and no doubt not disimilar for Blair).

The reality of course is that the first past the post Election system will not change, especially as Corbyn has gone left of Foot / Benn making Labour totally unelectable. Why would any Conservative MP support PR? Furthermore, if Cameron loses the EU referendum (not impossible), the Scots will seek independence in EU, leaving the Conservatives in power in Little England ad finitum. Unless the Conservatives split at some point......

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