Jane 2, please re read this thread! It is not a mother and toddler bashing thread. It is a thread where I, and a number of others, have said we would like mothers AND FATHERS and their kids in coffee shops. What I personally dont like is parents who do not control their kids.

Please dont feel indignant for something or someone else when we are trying to ask for a reasoned discourse. One of the posters said they would like a kids free coffee shop. I disagreed, I think well behave kids should be allowed into whatever shop, coffee shop, restaurant as long as they are well behaved.

I have two young children, I love going to coffee shops with them, I love coffee, they love the cakes. They behave. What is wrong with that?