Agree totally with you Snazy, however generation has had its hoodlums, teddy boys, mods and rockers, skinheads, punks etc, appears now that they have no respect for life at all and think its a big deal if they live to 30, very sad, just glad that my 2 boys - well one is a man now[ 20 ] the other one is nearly 14 totally agree that gang membership will only lead to one of 2 things, you either end up in prison or dead