SE23.com - The Official Forum for Forest Hill & Honor Oak, London SE23
Online since 2002  -  10,000+ members

Home | SE23 Topics | Shops & Services | Wider Topics | Offered/Wanted/Lost/Found | Advertising | Contact
Geddes Hairdressing & Barbering Studio One Armstrong & Co Solicitors Adult Learning Lewisham


Post Reply  Post Topic 
Pages (3): « First < Previous 1 [2] 3 Next > Last »
Dartmouth Tandoori to become Domino's Pizza?
Author Message
Mr Robin Banks


Posts: 80
Joined: Jun 2015
Post: #21
28-08-2015 07:25 PM

I should hope so. Can't handle another ice cream gate

Scared

Find all posts by this user Reply
jodwin


Posts: 8
Joined: Jul 2015
Post: #22
29-08-2015 11:45 AM

P1971 Wrote:
Just found out that The Dartmouth Tandoori has been taken over by Dominos Pizza.

jodwin Wrote:
Call me old-fashioned, but could you share with us your cast iron proof of this?

Thought not.

Find all posts by this user Reply
Mr Robin Banks


Posts: 80
Joined: Jun 2015
Post: #23
29-08-2015 03:59 PM

P1971,

Where did you get this information. Plz share

Find all posts by this user Reply
Snazy


Posts: 1,495
Joined: Jan 2008
Post: #24
29-08-2015 04:12 PM

Im with Deano and Ligersaur on this one, love the occasional Domino's. Oh and very much with Robbrockley too, plenty of discussion and distaste, but very little offering or interest in offering up an alternative business.

Bring on Nando's !

Find all posts by this user Reply
Poppet2


Posts: 59
Joined: Oct 2013
Post: #25
29-08-2015 07:47 PM

Why did McDonalds disappear?

Find all posts by this user Reply
Mr Robin Banks


Posts: 80
Joined: Jun 2015
Post: #26
29-08-2015 07:52 PM

Sold more drugs than chips

Find all posts by this user Reply
Poppet2


Posts: 59
Joined: Oct 2013
Post: #27
29-08-2015 08:11 PM

Oh, and there's no VAT on drugs right?Laugh

Find all posts by this user Reply
OakR


Posts: 213
Joined: Oct 2011
Post: #28
29-08-2015 09:16 PM

Quote:
Call me old-fashioned, but could you share with us your cast iron proof of this?


Well to be fair to P1971 she said that is what she has been told by the owner, she is hardly going to have cast iron proof unless she is part of the deal, which clearly she is not.

This post was last modified: 29-08-2015 09:17 PM by OakR.

Find all posts by this user Reply
Mr Robin Banks


Posts: 80
Joined: Jun 2015
Post: #29
29-08-2015 09:54 PM

Fair enough

Thumbup

Find all posts by this user Reply
Anotherjohn


Posts: 347
Joined: May 2005
Post: #30
30-08-2015 03:55 PM

Surely they would have needed to get planning permission for their delivery service - and I can't imagine the council agreeing to parking of scooters on that part of the road.

Find all posts by this user Reply
Snazy


Posts: 1,495
Joined: Jan 2008
Post: #31
01-09-2015 09:03 AM

Maybe a small parking bay as part of the new improvement plan for the street?
Would be a shame to see it blocked for the sake of it.

Find all posts by this user Reply
Anotherjohn


Posts: 347
Joined: May 2005
Post: #32
06-09-2015 02:11 PM

Durrr! Sorry, I was thinking of the wrong place but I have heard from another source that Dominos are negotiating on this one - and I saw surveyors in there last week.

Although this property has its own parking area at the rear for the scooters I believe there will still need to be a new planning application to change its use from a straightforward restaurant.

Find all posts by this user Reply
simonk


Posts: 24
Joined: Sep 2013
Post: #33
09-09-2015 10:01 AM

Indeed yes there will - from A3 to A5 (hot food takeaway) or mixed A3/A5 if they are maintaining a restaurant use (assuming the unit doesn't already have partial A5 status).

The relevant policy to consider will I think be DM policy 18, see page 55 of the DM policy document http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/myservices/pl...option.pdf

Find all posts by this user Reply
Anotherjohn


Posts: 347
Joined: May 2005
Post: #34
09-09-2015 03:18 PM

Thank you SimonK - very informative and interesting.

It states:-

'The Council will not grant planning permission for new hot food take-away shops that fall within 400 metres of the boundary of a primary or secondary school (the exclusion zone).'

Also, 'where there is no harm or loss of amenity to the living conditions of nearby residents, including that created by noise and disturbance from other users and their vehicles, smell, litter and unneighbourly opening hours.'

On the first point, we have Holy Trinity primary school within 200 metres and the front gates of Sydenham Girls at around 400 metres.

On the second point, there is an old converted church containing 5 flats within 5 metres of the parking space behind the restaurant - presumably where Dominos' scooter riders will be whizzing in and out until whatever hour in the evenings.

But maybe Dominos think they will be able to persuade the council that it was already trading as a takeaway; and get away with not having to make a new application for the A5 aspect?

Find all posts by this user Reply
simonk


Posts: 24
Joined: Sep 2013
Post: #35
10-09-2015 09:59 AM

Yes, the key question is whether it is already considered to be mixed A3/A5 use, though they would still need an application if they wanted to switch to pure A5.

My guess is that they wouldn't be taking it on if they didn't feel confident of getting it.

Find all posts by this user Reply
michael


Posts: 3,196
Joined: Mar 2005
Post: #36
10-09-2015 10:58 AM

The existing use class is A3. This can be seen from a rejected application from 2010. Link to the application can be found at:
http://planning.lewisham.gov.uk/online-a...CAPR_59147
or search for DC/10/73651 on http://planning.lewisham.gov.uk/online-applications/

Based on the situation with the Old Bank, a planning application from A3 to A5 would be required particularly since Dominos does not include any A3 (restaurant) provision in it's units.

The change of planning use would probably be accepted (as it was on appeal for The Old Bank), nobody could reasonable say that changing this unit to A5 would have a significant adverse impact on the high street.

The issues of moped noise and parking, and the distance from a primary school could be interesting issues.

Amazing how long it has taken Dominos to find a third unsuitable location for their SE23 outlet!

Find all posts by this user Reply
Anotherjohn


Posts: 347
Joined: May 2005
Post: #37
10-09-2015 02:34 PM

Quote:
The change of planning use would probably be accepted (as it was on appeal for The Old Bank), nobody could reasonable say that changing this unit to A5 would have a significant adverse impact on the high street


I agree.

Regarding the schools though, was the 400 metre exclusion zone an adopted part of Lewisham's planning policy when Dominos originally applied in HOP?

This should be quite an interesting case.

Find all posts by this user Reply
Snazy


Posts: 1,495
Joined: Jan 2008
Post: #38
10-09-2015 03:52 PM

Remembering of course that most are franchise owned, so this isn't Domino's finding locations, its franchisee's

Personally I would like one in the area, closer than Catford or Dulwich. Best deals are always collection. YUM! Thumbsup

Find all posts by this user Reply
Mr Robin Banks


Posts: 80
Joined: Jun 2015
Post: #39
10-09-2015 04:07 PM

I agree Thumbsup

Find all posts by this user Reply
PollyEster63


Posts: 47
Joined: May 2013
Post: #40
10-09-2015 04:20 PM

Isn't there one in Ponge?

Find all posts by this user Reply

Friends of Blythe Hill Fields