pauline I don't think you were at the last meeting,btw I know the difference between the types of meeting,those present at the last meeting were asked who wished to be involved in the Dartmouth rd meeting/project I clearly stated I did hence my invitation to this last meeting,personally I don't care if that makes me a stakeholder or not,it seems to me your argument is an internal one with the other members of the traders and not the people who are trying to get this project to completion