Maybe not relevant - however thought I would share this with you all, many years ago when I was down the South Coast [ near Hastings ], my wife took our 2 boys into a pub for some food/drink, pub was near Bexhill, after we had eaten our meal, the owner and her hubby, come up to us and gave the boys an ice cream each FOC as they both said they had never ever seen such well behaved children in their pub.

The boys were 3 & 10 at the time.

So maybe it is the upbringing, some people just cant be bothered to control the children when they get out of hand [ now i know we have all been children and its only a part of their growing up - yet some are quite an handful].