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  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

This is just typical! We will end up with a 10 year building site until the council give in to the housing planners and agree to more flats instead of a pool. So we'll have loads of people living ...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 05-06-2008, 11:55 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Well said Hilltopgeneral! This whole situation makes me really angry. It's not just FH pools, but Ladywell too. What else can we do, other than the petition?
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 05-06-2008, 03:14 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

In addition contact Steve Bullock the Mayor of Lewisham through his website http://www.stevebullock.co.uk/mayor/contact.htm Councillor Alex Feakes through the lewisham council website: http:/...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 10-06-2008, 09:54 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Has anyone had any feedback from the council on this issue yet? BTW - did anyone see the The Politics Show on Sunday that had a piece on the Government's latest sound bite 'free swimming for the ol...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 18-06-2008, 12:19 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

STOP being so sensible!!
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 24-07-2008, 11:05 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

2 weeks ago I emailed Steve Bullock, Alex Feakes and Jim Dowd regarding the 'no demolition without plans' issue - and I have received no response from any of them. As already mentioned the Lib Dems...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 25-06-2008, 01:29 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I think it's a foregone conslusion that the facade is going unfortunately. It is a scandal but there you have it. The really important thing is that a good modern design is agreed upon and we get our ...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 26-06-2008, 06:17 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Spot on - especially with regard to the financing model. Funding this through housing is not the way forward. Keep the Civic buildings and just get the pools working again. How difficult can it be. ...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 18-08-2008, 04:30 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

The sorry state of the shop fronts in Forest Hill was down to Sainsburys selfish greed and Lewisham Council for not enforcing Sainsburys to do something about the neglect. If the shops had been refurb...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 01-07-2008, 03:13 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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oh yeh, that too!
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 09-07-2008, 03:53 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Yes, option 3 - the high rise has been labelled 'the leisure building'. This is obviously not the case. Typical of slap dash council effort or something more sinister? - either way it does not bode we...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 15-07-2008, 11:31 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Dont quite get that 'tower block' feel from an ariel shot though.
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 15-07-2008, 12:43 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Option 2 is probably a better compromise if we want two pools. WE DONT NEED A COFFEE SHOP!!!!!!!!!
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 15-07-2008, 12:45 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Plenty of homeless people in the country that the council could offer to house here.
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 15-07-2008, 04:01 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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Forest Hill station was replaced with a 'new' building. We got a porto cabin. Nice.
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 21-07-2008, 11:07 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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and once the original pools building has been destroyed, there's no turning back!
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 23-07-2008, 05:35 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

The only danger of selling the old buildings to be redeveloped, is that the developer could knock them down and build flats. Unless they are listed we could lose out entirely!
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 24-07-2008, 12:22 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Nooooooooo! Not Bell Green, there is already a pool there. We want our Forest Hill Pools back and ideally not lose the Victorian streetscape. If the old buildings have to come down then we want a mode...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 25-07-2008, 09:33 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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Ahhh I see, so the the designs were actually complete nonsence, as once the developer puts in a planning change application, anything could be approved. As we have all noticed only recently in our com...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 10-09-2008, 06:17 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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Thanks Tim, I hadnt reaslised the historic significance if Louisa House -how interesting! The council should put this building to good use. What a pity there are people who would like to see these...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 21-08-2008, 11:01 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Well said Hilltopgeneral, I coundnt have put it better myself.
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 21-08-2008, 03:26 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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How briiliant would it be to have modern pools integrated with the Victorian buildings. Something similar to the Hornimans and Dulwich Picture Gallery. Everyone wins. Is it really only about funding.
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 21-08-2008, 05:19 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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How did the meeting go last night? Unfortunately due to work commitments (grrrrrr) I couuldnt make it.
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 22-08-2008, 10:33 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Surely the effort should be in making sure we get pools AND keep our historic buildings. I'd at least like to see what options the council can put forward in corporating LH. This appeal will just prol...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 28-08-2008, 11:07 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I dont think too many people would mind a new building if it was sympathetically done and well thought through - I personally would have accepted that. But the options given to us were not great or pa...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 28-08-2008, 04:57 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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"What I don't want to do is reopen the whole thing. I'm not going to go back to the drawing board." How pig-headed does that sound! 'The whole thing' is not a done deal yet and there are options. G...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 08-09-2008, 01:53 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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What were the 3 development options if not a form of consultation? What we have been presented to date is far from acceptable, cheap and vulgar. There was never any mention of the loss of the par...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 08-09-2008, 03:30 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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It's not acceptable that the buildings just decay. There is money and we need to see what can be achieved given current circumstances. Is the council saying that they cant even replace or repair the e...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 10-09-2008, 11:54 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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My maths might be a bit dodgy - but if you've got 7.5m to build new pools and you have a short fall of 2m, that means its going to cost 9.5m to build the pools alone - right? To raise the additional 2...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 10-09-2008, 04:24 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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Agreed! But none of this has been clear from the start which is why the council and Mayor should take responsibility for the friggin mess it's become.
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 10-09-2008, 06:26 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Well that's going to happen anyway!! How about getting rid of the mayor and the mayor's office. I bet that would save a few bob. I'm still perplexed as to how the council knows there is a 2m shortf...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 10-09-2008, 02:05 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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Well at least Lewisham are not on the list of Councils that stupidly lost 'our' money to failed Icelandic banks. So there should be no excuse to cut funding!!!
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 10-10-2008, 01:57 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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and will the council refund my bus fare?
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 28-10-2008, 05:19 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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Well said Rob!
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 26-02-2009, 11:18 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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Willow Way and Wells Park Rd are not even in Forest Hill! If the site is moved, what becomes of the old building on the original site? Leaving the original site empty and falling apart, does nothin...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 26-02-2009, 03:25 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

If there's any question over the density of population in Forest Hill, try travelling into London anytime between 7.30am and 9.30am - then you'll see!
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 26-02-2009, 05:43 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

WW is in SE26 not SE23 remember. This is not Forest Hill!!!!
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 03-03-2009, 01:22 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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It's a bit of an assumption on my part - but it seems to me that people who want Willow Way, do so mainly because the Council have effectively said it's that option or nothing else in the near future....
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 18-03-2009, 04:30 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I'm struggling to understand why WW is cheaper than FH and why we are being bullied into accepting the WW option. Redevelopment of the original site appears to be no option at all, as putting the proj...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 05-03-2009, 11:38 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

...and it's the council's bully-boy tactic that I hate, forcing us to accept something that 2 years ago would not have been tolerated, let alone discussed, with the threat of nothing at all - or jam p...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 24-03-2009, 03:45 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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You would have thought the exsiting Willow Way residents would have been consulted! Just another example of how bad this has all been managed.
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 31-03-2009, 01:08 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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..and it wouldnt be surprised if someone was getting a back-hander to ensure the Dartmouth Road site got sold off for development. Not that I'd dare accuse the Labour Party of corruption, greed and mo...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 01-04-2009, 04:40 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I thought the reason for rebuilding the pools from scratch, was because it was deemed too expensive to patch up - the tanks down below had cracked and would require some major surgery. Apparently not ...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 08-04-2009, 02:53 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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Baboonery, perhaps the lady that hassled you was just a bit too passionate and enthusiastic for the cause - rather than dishonest. After all, you can easily walk away, who would sign anything that the...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 09-04-2009, 12:47 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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I still dont understand why anyone would sign something they didnt agree with. I take your point that someone might not have an opinion and think - why not sign? Especially given the persistence and e...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 09-04-2009, 01:01 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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[quote]Love the way the BI seller has appeared in a thread on the pools. People just gotta get it in somewhere [/quote] What are you people like! It [i]was [/i]relevant! as an example of being hass...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 09-04-2009, 01:37 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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Whoa! I never mentioned the Mayor - just a reference to the current political sleaze. I'm happy to compromise, I want swimming in Forest Hill - doesnt have to be 'brilliant' just functional and cle...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 01-04-2009, 06:37 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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Obviously the Jacqui Smith situation is ridiculous! - what next I wonder? 'my main home is a Wendy House'? Seriously, what I dont see is the Mayor's campaign for funding our Pools in other ways - I...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 01-04-2009, 07:22 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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If just having swimming in Forest Hill or there abouts was important to most people, then there wouldnt be an argument. But there are nearly 4,000 people passionate enough about keeping the pools in t...
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 02-04-2009, 06:06 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
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Just seen your smilie face! I take it all back, before this becomes a thread about the BI seller again....:scared:
gingernuts SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,800 09-04-2009, 01:39 PM
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