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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool
| The plan, as I understand it, is to have initial designs completed by July so that the tender process can begin in July. This tender will include the detailed designs as well as construction of the si... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool
| A meeting did take place on 19th March. Whilst there have not been formal minutes circulated, I can provide some information about the plans the council communicated to us and other discussion. In fai... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Slightly more recently (2003) in the Forest Hill Urban Design Framework the site of the library, pool, and Louise House was described thus:
[quote=paragraph 5.3.1]
This key site is independent of th... |
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03-04-2008, 11:48 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| The Forest Hill Society shall have two key council officials at their general meeting on 7th May where we hope that we shall find out more regarding the plans and timescale for the development of the ... |
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02-05-2008, 12:44 AM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| The presentation from last night by Steve Gough and Aileen Buckton is now available at http://foresthillsociety.blogspot.com/2008/05/presentation-on-pools-from-general.html
Notes from the meeting w... |
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08-05-2008, 10:21 AM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I do not accept the picture you paint of the Forest Hill Society 'green-lighting practically anything the council proposes'. We back the idea of consulting local people on the issue and want to see th... |
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10-05-2008, 02:31 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Just one note that date of the meeting mentioned at the end of the report is not a public meeting, but it is useful to know that they will be meeting again next week.
Oh and another note, it seems ... |
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03-06-2008, 10:51 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| [size=small][quote=Tim Walder]
The site is currently due to be totally demolished around July this year. It is clearly wrong that the council has such a rapid plan for demolition of all of Forest Hi... |
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05-06-2008, 09:14 AM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| To help people remember the petition address and to make it easier to publicise, it is at:
http://fhpool-petition.notlong.com
or http://designb4demolition.notlong.com |
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06-06-2008, 08:37 AM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| The meeting on the 11th June is just for stakeholders not for members of the public, and two representatives from the FH Society will be attending. |
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06-06-2008, 12:11 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Is there not still a gym in Davids Road? |
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06-06-2008, 12:34 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Update on the pools is now available on http://foresthillsociety.blogspot.com/2008/06/11th-june-pools-stakeholders-meeting.html
reporting on the latest stakeholder meeting which took place on 11th Ju... |
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21-06-2008, 03:26 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Can I point out that the petition is not supporting the retention of the Victorian buildings, but consultation before demolition, which I understand Lewisham Council has now agreed to do (although I d... |
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01-07-2008, 09:54 AM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| [quote=koza]...it is these sort of things that bring genuine value to an area[/quote]
I see very little value in two empty buildings being allowed to decay where they stand (see listed concrete hou... |
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01-07-2008, 01:55 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| This is the direct link to the consultation:
http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/CouncilAndDemocracy/HavingYourSay/RedevelopmentOfForestHillPools/
There are three options to consider and a link at the bo... |
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15-07-2008, 08:24 AM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| There are significantly more plans available in the full report, which is available at http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/CouncilAndDemocracy/HavingYourSay/RedevelopmentOfForestHillPools/HLMForestHillPoolFeas... |
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16-07-2008, 09:07 AM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| The Sydenham Society response to the pools consultation is now available at http://www.sydenhamsociety.com/FHPoolsResponse.html |
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18-08-2008, 04:22 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| So much for Victorian architecture, they didn't even finish off the library building properly!
Perhaps the proposal is to paint the 'missing wall' on the library building so that we can pretend it ... |
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22-07-2008, 08:49 AM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Nobody had suggested the nature reserve except me and I think it is obvious that this would be a very bad choice, but I thought that since everybody else was suggesting impossible places to put a leis... |
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25-07-2008, 06:39 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| The railway is not wide enough for a shopping centre. Think of the eyesore that would be created, we had enough trouble fighting to keep the views of the Church from London Road with Forest Hill Centr... |
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25-07-2008, 09:27 AM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| The closing date for the consultation is currently 8th August, just a week away. If you have not completed a form, or do not have one, you can complete the consultation at http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/C... |
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01-08-2008, 04:42 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| The architect from HLM who I spoke to suggested that a movable floor may only cost an extra ?100k for the learner pool so that it can also be used for hydrotherapy. The learner pool is ideal for very ... |
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04-08-2008, 10:57 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| There is no less parking than the previous pool which has worked well for generations (since the space in front of the pool was closed to cars). There is provision for disabled parking only in the new... |
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05-08-2008, 09:54 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Calm down. Brian raised a perfectly well-informed point that it does not take 30 minutes to walk to the pool. However, I would disagree that it take 10 minutes from Dacres Road. I would probably guess... |
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07-08-2008, 02:06 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Now that the first section of the consultation process has been completed I am making the submission of the Forest Hill Society available on our website at http://foresthillsociety.blogspot.com/2008/0... |
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12-08-2008, 03:37 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I look forward to reading the report and would be happy to put it on the web if Steve can send it to me. Then everybody can make well informed responses.
I hope that Lewisham Council can now find a... |
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20-08-2008, 11:21 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Apologies for interrupting this little argument with a link to the BBC London news report on the pools http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7574029.stm
I don't think the video is available yet... |
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21-08-2008, 02:15 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I have been done to delete the reference to the Forest Hill Society as the listing was not done by the Forest Hill Society but by an individual who, as yet, has chosen to remain unidentified (as has t... |
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31-08-2008, 09:50 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| There is no point consulting until we actually know what the options are and I do not think it is simply a case of demolish or retain, either one has to be done in a meaningful context. |
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05-09-2008, 10:14 AM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Converting Louise House to housing would be counter to the reasons given for listing the building. Architecturally it is of limited value, most value comes from the social history of the building, rem... |
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05-09-2008, 12:16 AM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Nasaroc,
I said [i]"[b]The sad truth[/b] is that by listing Louise House (however important a building), it will put more [b]pressure on the pools frontage to be demolished[/b] if there is to be two... |
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05-09-2008, 09:39 AM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Nasaroc,
I think it is a real shame that time and again you accuse me of holding views that bear no relation to my postings and comments, and then demand answers from me and others when you are clear... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| [quote="Tim Walder"]The more significant cause of delay will be the collapse of the Counicl's funding model based on new housing as a result of which the scheme will need to be rethought anyway.[/quot... |
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06-09-2008, 11:08 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Roz,
You make some good points about facade retention, but I would point out that it is not actually the facade of the pools building that people wish to retain, it is the superintendent's building a... |
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07-09-2008, 11:36 AM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Papers for Cabinet meeting on 17th September can be found at http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/CouncilAndDemocracy/CouncilMeetings/MayorAndCabinet/Meetings/MayorCabinet170908Item11.htm
I have not read the... |
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09-09-2008, 11:16 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| News article about yesterday's meeting:
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/localheadlines/display.var.2448616.0.long_wait_to_heal_swimming_pool_rift.php |
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18-09-2008, 11:08 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Thanks Nasaroc.
One point about the rear of Louise House is that the laundry in particular is part of the listing. I have not been into the site to look round but would be interested to know if those... |
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07-09-2008, 01:19 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| The report to Mayor says that the feasability study by the council officers will be done by "early 2009". This is one year later than the report that went to mayor and cabinet in February this year. T... |
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10-09-2008, 01:47 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| The public are allowed to attend tonight's meeting and I shall be there along with others, I hope. The meeting starts at 6pm at the town hall. The public do not have an automatic right to speak but it... |
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17-09-2008, 11:20 AM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| The mayor considered the pools issue this evening and once again reaffirmed his commitment to swimming in Forest Hill.
STFOFH, the Forest Hill Society (me), and the FH councillors all recommended t... |
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17-09-2008, 09:18 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I was informed today that another application to list the pools was once again rejected by English Heritage despite the list of Louise House next door. This leaves the way open for Lewisham council to... |
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18-12-2008, 03:22 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| One of the options is a second Sydenham Pool rather than a replacement for the Forest Hill Pool. I think it would be a real shame to lose swimming on the current site and it would see more businesses ... |
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06-02-2009, 06:51 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Foresters,
I have not previously heard anything about Willow Way nor do I believe that any of the stakeholders were aware of this proposal.
You are right that the summary clearly favours the Syden... |
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07-02-2009, 07:43 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Forest Hill Society Executive view can be found at http://www.foresthillsociety.com/2009/02/forest-hill-society-to-back-option-2.html
We are supporting option 2 (just like the overwhelming majority... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Max,
I understand your argument about the economics of four pools rather than five, but I think you are taking the wrong approach. The Bridge is remarkably close to the borough boundary, with Beckenh... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| On 25th February, the Mayor and Cabinet meet to decide which of the three options for the development of Forest Hill Pools to accept.
[b][color=#000080]We urge you to write to the Mayor in suppor... |
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12-02-2009, 12:55 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Robin,
Where would you say quality of leisure facilities should fit on your list of desiderata?
P.S. always nice to learn a new word. |
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17-02-2009, 06:23 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Brian,
The Willow Way proposal is funded by 60 flats on the current pools site. Some in the existing buildings and some in new blocks across the site. If you want a guarantee about no housing on site... |
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18-02-2009, 02:32 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| The report to mayor and cabinet is now available on the council website, item 5 on the agenda:
http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/councilanddemocracy/councilmeetings/mayorandcabinet/meetings/mayor%20and%20c... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Foresters,
The 'White Shirt' to whom you refer was Councillor Robert Massey - http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/CouncilAndDemocracy/ElectedRepresentatives/Councillors/RobertMassey/ from the thriving distric... |
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