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Simod_the_bod
Joined 28-11-2006
Posted on Friday, 19 January, 2007 - 01:22 pm:   

Hi Everyone,

I know this is'nt strictly SE23 news, but it potentially has the capacity to hit us all in the wallet!

I have it on good authority i.e 100% reliable info, that there are now small undetectable specs cameras (average speed detection cameras) sited in both the north and south bore of the Blackwall tunnel. Apparently are were live from yesterday. The speed limit for the tunnels are 30mph northbound and 40mph southbound.

Any offences for speeding through the tunnel would be raising funds of 100 per offence or 50 if paid promptly. They have not installed signs warning drivers of this speed trap.

I shall leave the questions why they are doing this for you to answer. My thoughts are purely of revenue collecting.

Please be very careful if you or friends and family use the tunnel regularly.
Davidwhiting
Joined 07-12-2003
Posted on Friday, 19 January, 2007 - 01:27 pm:   

On the other hand, try the Woolwich Ferry. Speed limit of approx 5 knots enforced by historic Perkins marine engines.

Nice Thames views and as quick as the Blackwall on a good day.
Simod_the_bod
Joined 28-11-2006
Posted on Friday, 19 January, 2007 - 01:51 pm:   

Do they provide Fish n Chips?
Davidwhiting
Joined 07-12-2003
Posted on Friday, 19 January, 2007 - 02:58 pm:   

They used to sell tea in polystyrene cups, but alas no more.

As it is a short journey, there are no realistic prospects for a 'catch-your-own' enterprise.
Haylands
Joined 29-09-2006
Posted on Friday, 19 January, 2007 - 05:16 pm:   

If time were too short, perhaps trawling would be more efficient. Maybe Sushi and Crisps?
Theotherbrian
Joined 28-03-2005
Posted on Sunday, 21 January, 2007 - 09:44 pm:   

I wouldn't worry too much about the speed limit. I work in the east and alternate between train and car. The Blackwall Tunnel is a sick joke and I'd say my normal speed through it rarely exceeds 15mph and that's after the enormous wait to get to it. I queued for 65 minutes southbound on Thursday evening. Still I'd better get used to it when the East London Line closes in December.
Djnever
Joined 09-04-2006
Posted on Monday, 22 January, 2007 - 12:06 pm:   

Thanks for that Simon, I use Blackwall tunnel every other week, late at night aswell so I could be looking to push the speed limits.

I cant believe theres no signs though, I thought they had to put up a warning as the purpose is to make you slow down, not catch you out?
Sherwood
Joined 30-03-2005
Posted on Monday, 22 January, 2007 - 12:25 pm:   

I think most tunnels have speed cameras.
I am sure a minicab driver pointed them out in the Strand underpass.
I don't think they flash either.
Bosco
Joined 16-07-2004
Posted on Tuesday, 23 January, 2007 - 10:09 am:   

Boo hoo - nasty speed cameras that get you a fine for exceeding the speed limit. I have to say, I really don't see why people should get advance warning of speed cameras. Keep under the limit at all times and what's your problem? As the ad says, it's 30 (or whatever) for a reason.
Djnever
Joined 09-04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, 23 January, 2007 - 01:50 pm:   

Thanks for reminding us PC Bosco
Robwinton
Joined 07-06-2006
Posted on Tuesday, 23 January, 2007 - 02:10 pm:   

In general terms I agree with Bosco. There is a limit so we should stick to it and be slapped on the wrist for ignoring it, particularly in the tunnel where a crash is both dangerous and time consuming to remove.

What we don't need are revenue generating "traps" like the bus lane camera on the South Circular/Brockley Rise. When cameras like this are set up to "catch" drivers who are just being hemmed in by bad road planning, then that gets me angry (yes, I have been caught out there before).

What we DO need are "stupid cameras". Rather than just catching drivers who speed we should catch those drivers who make all the other dangerous, illegal and selfish selfish manouevres (blocking exits, turning down one way streets the wrong way, skipping orderly queues to try and cut in at the last moment, driving at twice the limit then braking suddenly for the speed camera, ...).

Can someone invent and install them instead please (they used to be called 'Police on the beat' of course).
Bosco
Joined 16-07-2004
Posted on Tuesday, 23 January, 2007 - 02:19 pm:   

DJNever, I don't follow your comment - what's your point?

Robwinton - couldn't agree more re the revenue generating cameras. The South Circ/Brockley rise junction is ridiculous and cars should be allowed into the left hand lane long before "officially" permitted by the bus lane.

Don't know whether there's a camera but the same applies to the junction of London Road and (I think) Sydenham Hill/Rise.
Robwinton
Joined 07-06-2006
Posted on Tuesday, 23 January, 2007 - 02:46 pm:   

no camera there (thank god) as I totally agree with you that this is poorly thought out.

And while we are on the subject, have you noticed how the traffic on Stondon Park coming up to the Honor Oak lights has been much worse since they resurfaced it? I think they must have moved the central line to make the southbound lane narrower than before so you can't squeeze two lanes up to the lights like you used to.

OK, this is slightly off the topic of "Blackwall Tunnel", but maybe we could get Simon_the_bod to generalise the heading to discuss the worst road planning issues in the SE23 area to take to the FHS? I'm sure Michael needs some other campaign to keep him fully occupied!!
Simod_the_bod
Joined 28-11-2006
Posted on Wednesday, 24 January, 2007 - 11:34 am:   

Great idea Robwinton, agree with everything you said and have a few rants of my own to air!


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