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Joined 21-04-2006
Posted on Thursday, 28 September, 2006 - 01:49 pm:   

If you, like me, feel that you are the last person left in the whole borough not to have any satellite TV, read on. I may be late as always with any technology. I don t have an IPod, never had MP3 player, no Blackberry, I actually use my mobile phone just to make phone calls. However a recent change in my family situation made me look into trying to get some French and Italian television for my mum. I never particularly liked those satellite dishes. On some lovely period properties they look so ugly, on 60s/70s apartment blocks like mine, even worse. However I found a good amount of ways to avoid putting one up on my building street facade. I can set up my dish in my garage, or inside a storage cupboard in the house. ?t=463628 ndowdish.html

These are all quite lengthy reading materials but informative especially if you are half a technophobe like me.

Alternatively you can buy a transparent dish. It looks slightly better than the solid ones. m

And of course, check the Householder's Planning Guide for the installation of Antennas, including Satellite Dishes. Or
Joined 24-03-2004
Posted on Thursday, 28 September, 2006 - 02:03 pm:   

Better still, get cable.

Point to note: you need planning permission for dishes on blocks of flats, and people like me will only be too happy to check you have got it - so don't be surprised when Enforcement comes a-knocking. You know who you are!
Joined 21-04-2006
Posted on Thursday, 28 September, 2006 - 02:36 pm:   

Always ready to be agressive Hilltopegenral. You are boring me now.

I personally don t like satellite dishes on any type of property, and I made it clear in my previous entry. I have the Office Of the Deputy Prime Minister leaflet guide on Antennas. I know the regulations very well thank you. Again see my previous post. I have battled with planning dept at the Lewisham council for them to enforce the restrictions but to no good. They really can t be bothered. Maybe you can do it for me. You see the round early Vistorian group of converted flats at the end of Sunderland road, before the Stansted Road turn, well they don t have planning permission and don t need planning permission but they are in breach of the regulations as the there are more than two antennas per building. Now go and see if anybody cares at the council !

Anyway you won t see my dish at the front of my property. Hence the garage (inside), the storing cupboard (inside).

Points to note:

1 on cable, foreign languages channels are not
good for me. I need French and Italian TV and not Alpha Punjab unfortunately.
2 the streets is full of patches and holes thanks to the cable
3 in my front garden there is a huge shiny green conduit that contains my neighbour s tv s cable. It is annoying and everytime I attempt to do some gardening it is in my way. It is often the case for other people as well.

Good luck with your Enforcement team. If everything goes well I have another list of Satellite dishes to be removed for you to action. Thank you...........
Joined 24-03-2004
Posted on Thursday, 28 September, 2006 - 02:59 pm:   

Well done for encouraging people to flout restrictions - and good luck with those game shows!
Joined 21-04-2006
Posted on Thursday, 28 September, 2006 - 03:26 pm:   

Either my written english language needs to be assessed again or the level of your own language reading and understanding is just ready for remedial classes.

How is someone NOT putting a satellite dish on the outside of any building encouraging people to flout regulations ? You wont be able to explain this anyway. As usual, when questioned, you tend to copy and paste one s previous entry sentences.

You see Hilltopegeneral my first posting was a genuine attempt to offer some advice to people who like me never wanted to put up a satellite dish on their property but would like to watch some of the channels offered. All this well in the light and respect of current planning regulations. However any reader' s attention will be now deviated to our bickering and useless dialogue. Anybody with even the most basic amount of behavioral science knowledge would know that yur provocative tone is surely working so far but is quite a pointless exercise.
Joined 21-12-2005
Posted on Thursday, 28 September, 2006 - 05:17 pm:   

Millesens: thanks for the informative links. Do you know if you can get European channels from 'our' satellite (ie the one everyone uses to get Sky) or will you have to realign the dish to different satellites?

[Yes, I know 'European' also includes the UK but you know what I mean!]
Joined 21-04-2006
Posted on Thursday, 28 September, 2006 - 06:27 pm:   

you are welcome, for french and italian I know Satellites Astra, Hotbird and Eutelsat are very good. For instance to get free french TV and radio, Astra 1 @ 19° east, Hotbird @ 13° east and Atlantic Bird 3 @ 5° west have a good selection. I think a minidish will not work. 60 cm and above is best. Also it is best to have 2 LNBs. You can buy a double LNB set at Maplins, on Stansted road.

Here another useful link for you as I don t know which european language tv channel you are looking for.
Joined 07-12-2003
Posted on Friday, 29 September, 2006 - 11:23 am:   

Est-ce qu'il faut s'abonner à ces services plurilingues, ou sont-ils peut-être gratuits?

En tous cas, n'inquietez-vous de votre connaissance d'anglais, qui, je ne doute pas, soit au moins aussi elevée que la moyenne competence en français du quartier.
Joined 01-12-2005
Posted on Friday, 29 September, 2006 - 03:12 pm:   

I love how inclusive this thread has become. Well done!
Joined 21-04-2005
Posted on Friday, 29 September, 2006 - 04:14 pm:   

Moi Aussi!!!!!!!!!!! Well said Deanos. Take note Andy!
Joined 17-03-2005
Posted on Friday, 29 September, 2006 - 05:14 pm:   

Oh good, French practice! They say learning languages boosts your brain function.

''Is it necessary to pay for multilingual services, or are they free?

In any case,(en TOUT cas, Dave- n'est-ce pas?) don't fret about your knowledge of english, which,(que- non?) is probably miles better than the average grasp of French around these here parts.''

Marks out of dix, anyone?
Joined 07-12-2003
Posted on Friday, 29 September, 2006 - 08:25 pm:   

Modest prevented me writing entirely correct French as this might have given the impression of 'showing off'. Well done, Roz, for noticing one of my two deliberate mistakes.

An excellently fluent translation into idiomatic English by the way, for which I am glad to award ten out of ten.
Joined 20-02-2006
Posted on Friday, 29 September, 2006 - 09:10 pm:   

Roz got both of them, I think. I was told as a child that learning a new language gives you a new soul.

Doesn't modesty dictate that you're not supposed to tell us you were faking?
Joined 30-03-2005
Posted on Friday, 29 September, 2006 - 10:45 pm:   

This looks interesting.
I seem to remember getting lots of German, Spanish etc channels on Sky when I first got it.
One local shopkeper often had an Italian football match on his TV when I went in.
Joined 22-02-2006
Posted on Friday, 29 September, 2006 - 10:49 pm:   

I had a satellite dish up from 1996-2005 and live in a block of flats and never had any problems from the council.

We were only asked to remove it, once renovation work commenced on our estate last year.
Joined 07-12-2003
Posted on Friday, 29 September, 2006 - 11:13 pm:   

Hi Calvin. The quote is from André Malreaux, who, after a left-wing youth, became de Gaulle's Minister of Culture. He was right on this one. A pity there is so much reluctance to learn foreign languages in England.

As to what is appropriately modest behaviour, we perhaps need a steering group to determine the performance criteria - I couldn't possibly presume to offer an opinion.

'Qui' is correct, by the way. It is the subject of the subordinate clause.

I hope this thread isn't putting Millesens off continued residence in this country, and I would like to know about how you get signed up to the channels she mentioned!
Joined 20-02-2006
Posted on Saturday, 30 September, 2006 - 11:09 am:   

Ahhh, way too clever for me! Now I know what I've suspected all along; your French is far better than mine.

Thank you for identifying Malreaux for me!
Joined 21-04-2006
Posted on Monday, 02 October, 2006 - 11:56 am:   

This was interesting really, from satellite dishes to french and quotes from Malreaux!! It is surely what keeps me in this country....

Coming back to "paraboles", it seems best to have multiple LNBs so that you can get sky and the foreign language channels as they are broadcast by different satellites. But as I mentioned before, you can buy those already set twin LNBs ( Maplins sell them but surely many other electronic shops and online retailers) and they do all the work for you.

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