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Jojo
Joined 11-09-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, 13 April, 2006 - 02:28 pm: | |
Looked closed last night and today. Or just closed for Easter?
As long as they take those horrible Coca Cola umbrellas away....
I pray that it will re-open as something else - a decent (chain, if it has to be) restaurant with decent food and an idea of what the hell it is. |
Loopylu
Joined 11-02-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, 27 April, 2006 - 07:44 pm: | |
yes I agree, those umbrellas are so tacky! Yes think it has closed down, been shut for ages. Such a big space could have a funky bar and tables to eat....im with you on the praying |
Brian
Joined 18-04-2005
| | Posted on Friday, 28 April, 2006 - 07:34 am: | |
We all would like a decent chain or solo rest but is the market there.? If so why do these business's keep failing |
Simon
Joined 18-07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, 28 April, 2006 - 09:06 am: | |
Judging by how packed the Dartmouth was a couple of Saturdays ago when I popped for something to eat, I say the market is there for the right business. |
Pvp
Joined 17-03-2005
| | Posted on Friday, 28 April, 2006 - 09:39 am: | |
I agree, there's a lot of space that could be put to good use. I think something that has separate drink / food / dance area is needed to balance what already works in the locality. The previous Thai place had good food, but it was very draughty and airy with little atmosphere.
Oh, and those umbrellas.... |
Loneranger
Joined 29-10-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, 29 April, 2006 - 05:54 am: | |
For anyone interested. On the South London commercial property website a restraurant/takeaway is listed in London Road. It's 1,200 sq ft with a 12 year lease and newly decorated. Said to have takings of £1,700 a week plus £400 rental from accomodation above restraurant. Rent is £11,000 a year, Premium £65,000 includes fixtures & fittings plus goodwill. |
Roz
Joined 17-03-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, 29 April, 2006 - 12:41 pm: | |
I back Simon's and pvp's view. The Dartmouth has shown that there is a strong market in Forest Hill for gastronomy and the other arty things they are doing there. The Orchard is also very successfully locally but caters for a different crowd. We went there a few weeks ago after a long gap- it was like stepping into someone's home, they way the clientele seemed to know each other, and the owner seemed to know all of her clientele. Unusually friendly for London. The food is very much plain home cooking ( meant as a compliment) but sometimes this is what people want.
People clearly want to come and eat in Forest Hill but want quality. Barcelona is not on the main drag yet is always packed. Personally I'd love to see a really good Indian restaurant in London Road similar to Tandoori Nights in East Dulwich, or Babur Brasserie. Unusually we don't have one on our main town centre.
The Three Monkeys in Herne Hill is not in a great location but attracts a huge following. So why not in Forest Hill?
( Hopefully some budding entrepreneur out there will be reading this and thinking the same...) Has anyone at the Council carried out any research into why some of these businesses work and others don't? |
Hilltopgeneral
Joined 24-03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, 30 April, 2006 - 02:28 pm: | |
"Takings of £1700 a week" will probably be ebough to put people off. A little disturbing; it is all too evident why the business closed. That's only 60-80 covers A WEEK and probably only enough to pay 3 people, if that, once the other costs are considered.
That's not to say it couldn't be a success if competently run. |
Nate
Joined 14-01-2005
| | Posted on Monday, 01 May, 2006 - 12:01 pm: | |
Would be great to have a successful venture there - I did try Aceri soon after it opened wanting it to succeed, but the food was pretty poor to say the least.
By the way Roz, Forest Hill does already have a very good Indian (ok Bangladeshi) resteraunt - Kafe La. It easily rivals Barbur, has very interesting dishes and is very reasonble indeed. |
Bosco
Joined 16-07-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, 03 May, 2006 - 10:19 am: | |
Agree with Nate - went there the other night and was, as always, very impressed. While we all want London and Dartmouth Roads to have great places to go, there is no reason whey all the good places have to b on the main drag - one of the best things, other than the food, about the Bangladeshi resto on Perry Vale is that it is slightly off the main drag and therefore the street is that bit quieter. |
Forester
Joined 04-02-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, 03 May, 2006 - 11:05 am: | |
kafe la is an absolute gem |
Pvp
Joined 17-03-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, 03 May, 2006 - 04:52 pm: | |
Where / what is Barcelona? Can't recall seeing it |
Roz
Joined 17-03-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, 03 May, 2006 - 08:37 pm: | |
I'll try Kafe La , thanks for the tip. Barcelona is a tapas bar near the turn off on the south circ to Dulwich near the Harvester. Its excellent and the staff are great fun. |
Applespider
Joined 26-02-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, 03 May, 2006 - 11:57 pm: | |
Barcelona is great as is the Dartmouth and the Kafe La
I attempted Latitude/Aceri once since I do believe in giving local businesses a shot but it wasn't particularly good so I didn't go back. I'm not surprised that it went under.
Since we have good Spanish, Indian and 'gastropub', I'd like to see a 'good' Italian with a proper woodburning stove for pizzas etc. |
Bosco
Joined 16-07-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, 04 May, 2006 - 09:36 am: | |
There actually is a Woodburning stove pizza place on London Road - have only ever used them for take away and while not brilliant they're not bad. They do have seating inside but it's not particularly inviting - very very bright!
Now, somewhere like Zizzi albeit a chain do very nice pizzas and they are woodfired. The one in Beckenham seems to do a pretty good trade so why not her in FH too? |
Aono73
Joined 15-07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, 04 May, 2006 - 10:37 am: | |
Unfortunately, that pizza place on London Road with a woodburning oven, makes a pizza that has nothing to do with real italian pizza.
If you check the oven of Zizzi in Beckenham, it does not user wood, but gas...even though there are so many logs outside the oven, they are just for decoration.
The place is quite nice though. |
Brian
Joined 18-04-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, 04 May, 2006 - 01:42 pm: | |
Their scooters are a menace.
Take away establishments just sums up a section of our current society.
I seem to have survived many years never requesting deliveries from these people. |
Bosco
Joined 16-07-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, 04 May, 2006 - 02:08 pm: | |
Aono - didn't realise that about Zizzi - always thought they were wood fired.
Agreed about the place on London Road - nothing like an authentic italian pizza but still better than Pizza hut further down the road - and their scooter drivers really are a menace! |
Domc
Joined 17-03-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, 04 May, 2006 - 02:21 pm: | |
Two Trees in Honor Oak also do (used to a shortly while back) pizzas which were always delicious. |
Jbird
Joined 13-02-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, 04 May, 2006 - 02:35 pm: | |
Domc - I've never heard of Two Trees. Can you tell me where it is please?? |
Liz
Joined 26-04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, 04 May, 2006 - 08:24 pm: | |
Old Bank in Honor Oak doesn't do pizzas but is a good Italian restaurant and always packed. You have to book - even midweek - to ensure you get a table. Not very intimate, though, if that's what you're after. |
Domc
Joined 17-03-2005
| | Posted on Friday, 05 May, 2006 - 07:42 am: | |
Jbird - is on Forest Hill Road opposite surgery. Offers both tapas and pizzas - have never failed to have a good meal in there. |
Nate
Joined 14-01-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, 07 May, 2006 - 11:08 am: | |
The best pizza I have had in Forest Hill is from a place called Toscana - I think they are based in Penge, but deliver here and are well worth a try. |
Hoppy
Joined 05-12-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, 20 January, 2007 - 07:07 pm: | |
any news on this site anyone? |
Robwinton
Joined 07-06-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, 20 January, 2007 - 10:38 pm: | |
Have you not read the Organic Republic thread and the comments made by the potential new business owner there? Apparently a potential wine bar & coffee shop. Theoretically ideal for the location, but that is all I know. I think the hand made "Restaurant for sale or rent" sign is still in the window. |
Misskitty
Joined 16-01-2007
| | Posted on Monday, 22 January, 2007 - 02:33 pm: | |
In answer to the original question, yes aceri is closed I heard due to a stabbing which occurred during a private party. Apparently, since they were charging people to attend the party this was against their licence. |
Brian
Joined 18-04-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, 23 January, 2007 - 08:20 am: | |
Thanks Miss Kitty for answering the question. I guess no more posts on the item |
Jojo
Joined 11-09-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, 23 January, 2007 - 10:26 am: | |
Yes obviously it is closed (and in what awful circumstances) - but let us look to the future.....can anyone find out what the new owner's plans are and when it is like to re-open???? I think that is what we are interested in here.
Perhaps someone should change the title of the post to 'The future of Aceri'. |
