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Joined 11-09-2005
Posted on Thursday, 13 April, 2006 - 02:28 pm:   

Looked closed last night and today. Or just closed for Easter?
As long as they take those horrible Coca Cola umbrellas away....
I pray that it will re-open as something else - a decent (chain, if it has to be) restaurant with decent food and an idea of what the hell it is.
Joined 11-02-2006
Posted on Thursday, 27 April, 2006 - 07:44 pm:   

yes I agree, those umbrellas are so tacky! Yes think it has closed down, been shut for ages. Such a big space could have a funky bar and tables to with you on the praying
Joined 18-04-2005
Posted on Friday, 28 April, 2006 - 07:34 am:   

We all would like a decent chain or solo rest but is the market there.? If so why do these business's keep failing
Joined 18-07-2005
Posted on Friday, 28 April, 2006 - 09:06 am:   

Judging by how packed the Dartmouth was a couple of Saturdays ago when I popped for something to eat, I say the market is there for the right business.
Joined 17-03-2005
Posted on Friday, 28 April, 2006 - 09:39 am:   

I agree, there's a lot of space that could be put to good use. I think something that has separate drink / food / dance area is needed to balance what already works in the locality. The previous Thai place had good food, but it was very draughty and airy with little atmosphere.

Oh, and those umbrellas....
Joined 29-10-2005
Posted on Saturday, 29 April, 2006 - 05:54 am:   

For anyone interested. On the South London commercial property website a restraurant/takeaway is listed in London Road. It's 1,200 sq ft with a 12 year lease and newly decorated. Said to have takings of 1,700 a week plus 400 rental from accomodation above restraurant. Rent is 11,000 a year, Premium 65,000 includes fixtures & fittings plus goodwill.
Joined 17-03-2005
Posted on Saturday, 29 April, 2006 - 12:41 pm:   

I back Simon's and pvp's view. The Dartmouth has shown that there is a strong market in Forest Hill for gastronomy and the other arty things they are doing there. The Orchard is also very successfully locally but caters for a different crowd. We went there a few weeks ago after a long gap- it was like stepping into someone's home, they way the clientele seemed to know each other, and the owner seemed to know all of her clientele. Unusually friendly for London. The food is very much plain home cooking ( meant as a compliment) but sometimes this is what people want.

People clearly want to come and eat in Forest Hill but want quality. Barcelona is not on the main drag yet is always packed. Personally I'd love to see a really good Indian restaurant in London Road similar to Tandoori Nights in East Dulwich, or Babur Brasserie. Unusually we don't have one on our main town centre.
The Three Monkeys in Herne Hill is not in a great location but attracts a huge following. So why not in Forest Hill?
( Hopefully some budding entrepreneur out there will be reading this and thinking the same...) Has anyone at the Council carried out any research into why some of these businesses work and others don't?
Joined 24-03-2004
Posted on Sunday, 30 April, 2006 - 02:28 pm:   

"Takings of 1700 a week" will probably be ebough to put people off. A little disturbing; it is all too evident why the business closed. That's only 60-80 covers A WEEK and probably only enough to pay 3 people, if that, once the other costs are considered.

That's not to say it couldn't be a success if competently run.
Joined 14-01-2005
Posted on Monday, 01 May, 2006 - 12:01 pm:   

Would be great to have a successful venture there - I did try Aceri soon after it opened wanting it to succeed, but the food was pretty poor to say the least.

By the way Roz, Forest Hill does already have a very good Indian (ok Bangladeshi) resteraunt - Kafe La. It easily rivals Barbur, has very interesting dishes and is very reasonble indeed.
Joined 16-07-2004
Posted on Wednesday, 03 May, 2006 - 10:19 am:   

Agree with Nate - went there the other night and was, as always, very impressed. While we all want London and Dartmouth Roads to have great places to go, there is no reason whey all the good places have to b on the main drag - one of the best things, other than the food, about the Bangladeshi resto on Perry Vale is that it is slightly off the main drag and therefore the street is that bit quieter.
Joined 04-02-2006
Posted on Wednesday, 03 May, 2006 - 11:05 am:   

kafe la is an absolute gem
Joined 17-03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, 03 May, 2006 - 04:52 pm:   

Where / what is Barcelona? Can't recall seeing it
Joined 17-03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, 03 May, 2006 - 08:37 pm:   

I'll try Kafe La , thanks for the tip. Barcelona is a tapas bar near the turn off on the south circ to Dulwich near the Harvester. Its excellent and the staff are great fun.
Joined 26-02-2006
Posted on Wednesday, 03 May, 2006 - 11:57 pm:   

Barcelona is great as is the Dartmouth and the Kafe La

I attempted Latitude/Aceri once since I do believe in giving local businesses a shot but it wasn't particularly good so I didn't go back. I'm not surprised that it went under.

Since we have good Spanish, Indian and 'gastropub', I'd like to see a 'good' Italian with a proper woodburning stove for pizzas etc.
Joined 16-07-2004
Posted on Thursday, 04 May, 2006 - 09:36 am:   

There actually is a Woodburning stove pizza place on London Road - have only ever used them for take away and while not brilliant they're not bad. They do have seating inside but it's not particularly inviting - very very bright!

Now, somewhere like Zizzi albeit a chain do very nice pizzas and they are woodfired. The one in Beckenham seems to do a pretty good trade so why not her in FH too?
Joined 15-07-2005
Posted on Thursday, 04 May, 2006 - 10:37 am:   

Unfortunately, that pizza place on London Road with a woodburning oven, makes a pizza that has nothing to do with real italian pizza.

If you check the oven of Zizzi in Beckenham, it does not user wood, but gas...even though there are so many logs outside the oven, they are just for decoration.
The place is quite nice though.
Joined 18-04-2005
Posted on Thursday, 04 May, 2006 - 01:42 pm:   

Their scooters are a menace.
Take away establishments just sums up a section of our current society.
I seem to have survived many years never requesting deliveries from these people.
Joined 16-07-2004
Posted on Thursday, 04 May, 2006 - 02:08 pm:   

Aono - didn't realise that about Zizzi - always thought they were wood fired.

Agreed about the place on London Road - nothing like an authentic italian pizza but still better than Pizza hut further down the road - and their scooter drivers really are a menace!
Joined 17-03-2005
Posted on Thursday, 04 May, 2006 - 02:21 pm:   

Two Trees in Honor Oak also do (used to a shortly while back) pizzas which were always delicious.
Joined 13-02-2006
Posted on Thursday, 04 May, 2006 - 02:35 pm:   

Domc - I've never heard of Two Trees. Can you tell me where it is please??
Joined 26-04-2006
Posted on Thursday, 04 May, 2006 - 08:24 pm:   

Old Bank in Honor Oak doesn't do pizzas but is a good Italian restaurant and always packed. You have to book - even midweek - to ensure you get a table. Not very intimate, though, if that's what you're after.
Joined 17-03-2005
Posted on Friday, 05 May, 2006 - 07:42 am:   

Jbird - is on Forest Hill Road opposite surgery. Offers both tapas and pizzas - have never failed to have a good meal in there.
Joined 14-01-2005
Posted on Sunday, 07 May, 2006 - 11:08 am:   

The best pizza I have had in Forest Hill is from a place called Toscana - I think they are based in Penge, but deliver here and are well worth a try.
Joined 05-12-2005
Posted on Saturday, 20 January, 2007 - 07:07 pm:   

any news on this site anyone?
Joined 07-06-2006
Posted on Saturday, 20 January, 2007 - 10:38 pm:   

Have you not read the Organic Republic thread and the comments made by the potential new business owner there? Apparently a potential wine bar & coffee shop. Theoretically ideal for the location, but that is all I know. I think the hand made "Restaurant for sale or rent" sign is still in the window.
Joined 16-01-2007
Posted on Monday, 22 January, 2007 - 02:33 pm:   

In answer to the original question, yes aceri is closed I heard due to a stabbing which occurred during a private party. Apparently, since they were charging people to attend the party this was against their licence.
Joined 18-04-2005
Posted on Tuesday, 23 January, 2007 - 08:20 am:   

Thanks Miss Kitty for answering the question. I guess no more posts on the item
Joined 11-09-2005
Posted on Tuesday, 23 January, 2007 - 10:26 am:   

Yes obviously it is closed (and in what awful circumstances) - but let us look to the future.....can anyone find out what the new owner's plans are and when it is like to re-open???? I think that is what we are interested in here.

Perhaps someone should change the title of the post to 'The future of Aceri'.

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