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Joined 22-11-2005
Posted on Wednesday, 23 November, 2005 - 12:16 am:   

.... but new to the site. Discovered this great Forum a week ago, after living 10 years in/on THE Hill.
Just a quick hi to all.
I have been/am reading all the posts on this excellent Forum, catching up and finding out so much about this wonderful Town/Village that I and my family am/are proudly part of and looking forward to reading/learning much more and making input too. Hopefully my post is not inappropriate as a newbie to the forum?
Sincere regards

Scorpy Sue
Joined 03-03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, 23 November, 2005 - 10:56 am:   

hello Sue
looking forward to benefiting from the knowledge you have gleaned from your long standing Hillification!
Joined 22-11-2005
Posted on Wednesday, 23 November, 2005 - 01:59 pm:   

Thankyou very much Jo
I have learnt new things from your own posts as well as from others.
I guess I already know a lot about Forest Hill because of having lived here for 10 years but not necessarily all the good or advantageous bits, which is why I am so happy to have found this forum.
I am from a not so celubrious (sp?) part of FH (one of the Council Estates)which I have actually, in the past, tried to help make better (T&RA) but not currently - gonna have a rethink on joining again though because this Forum has been an inspiration to me and seems to be spuring me on to do more for myself, my family and others benefit. Something I have seen on posts here > "Wrong or right side of the tracks?"
I don't know really, but I like the area a lot and feel I made a wise decision to move from (bleurgh!) Lambeth (despite having lived there practically from birth until I moved to SE23) all those years ago - major reasons then were members of my family moved to/lived in SE23 and I had also lived (albeit briefly) in a bedsit on Perry Vale once, as a young, free rebellious female, also, its on the way out to Kent=countryside, not too far=LOVELY! for trips out etc. and thought "Yes! That's where I will finally, feel right at home.
I started reading this forum, approx. a week to two weeks back, from the earliest posts towards the newest posted but must admit to have stopped midway and now started from the newest and reading onward lol just incase I miss something important.
I have found out so much interesting and beneficial (to me/mine) information and wish to congratulate the Webmaster, other contributers/members of the forum, on what is now a daily visited website by me.
I hope this long post is not frowned on but on reading about half of all that has been posted here I think it will be ok as a one off (I have read the rules/guidelines and have a good brain, but am a bit wary of making a mistake that would cost me dearly by losing my posting access lol)
To move on - I found one old thread, that had a small piece of information in it that was very interesting to me, basically because of my love of horses (from early age to present day, as I used to own/ride them years ago) and I hope somehow to have some involvement in horses again, in the near future, if I am fortunate.
Rather than bringing back the old thread by replying/commenting on it, I will post the thread link here

I would really appreciate if, anyone knowing more about these particular horses mentioned, their owners, the owner/landlord of the land they are grazing on, the circumstances of their being there etc, OR information on any other horses/horsey people within FH could let me know.
Please reply here if you can help, with either your e-mail address or requesting mine.
This is for my hobby/leisure interests side.
This site and the posts/information in it, however, mean much more to me than just that.

Thankyou in advance and best wishes to all.
I look forward to reading so much more than I have done so already and also, hopefully, contributing more than just this one long peronal post, for others benefit.

Scorpy Sue
Joined 30-03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, 23 November, 2005 - 03:37 pm:   

The nearest horses I am aware of are in Dulwich Common on the right as you go down Dulwich common from the Harvester Public House.
Joined 22-11-2005
Posted on Friday, 25 November, 2005 - 12:13 am:   

Ah yes,the Dulwich Riding School. I know about that already, and a great place it is too, for people wishing to try/get into, horse riding.

Thankyou very much for your input Sherwood.

Anyone else with any info on the grazing horses mentioned in my last post (whom, if they are still there (think so?) I will get to see soon, when I go "walkabout" more, in the FH area) on the old thread, or anything/anyone else "horsey", connected to/in Forest Hill - could you please mail me details on
Reason being, I hope to be able to get back into riding horses again, soon-ish but after owning your own, going to a local riding school for an hour or so is just not good enough, so I hope maybe to make contact with someone local who may need help with their own horse/s (obviously the horse/s will not be based in FH but possibly not too far from the area)
I wish I still had my own horse (was before I had children mostly but also since, but its a lot of work and money to do it all alone, with a family to keep/look after but VERY rewarding) Who knows though - maybe I might happen to find somebody needing some help - Worth a try?

~Scorpy Sue~
Joined 30-03-2005
Posted on Friday, 25 November, 2005 - 09:20 am:   

There is a horse riding track on Hilly Fields. So there must be horses somewhere around there.
I am told that the new Police Station at Lewisham has stables for police horses.
Joined 17-03-2005
Posted on Monday, 28 November, 2005 - 04:59 pm:   

SS - The horses between honour oak and forest hill, somewhere behind the tesco's... yes, I came across them a couple of summers ago but was unable to find them this summer. I'll have another look next summer.

As for riding, my partner has been looking into schools that are above the odd cantor for the enthusiast, and it seems very pricey. At the moment, the best option seems to head over the hills to kent unless you're happy paying £60 p.h. plus. I'll update when we've made more progress as the girl loves to ride.

And Baggydave, I bought her a pair of full leather chaps this weekend. You'd like that wouldn't you?
Joined 27-05-2004
Posted on Tuesday, 29 November, 2005 - 01:07 pm:   

Walk north along along Honor Oak Road (away from London Road). Keep looking left (carefully!) between Horniman drive and Canonbie Road and you may have a pleasant surprise...
Joined 19-05-2004
Posted on Wednesday, 30 November, 2005 - 12:12 pm:   

I'm being stalked again. Help!
Joined 30-03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, 30 November, 2005 - 02:58 pm:   

My expert contact says that the only riding stables in Lewisham he knows are:
Willow Tree Riding Establishment, The Stables, Ronver Road, Lee, London SE12 0NL
020 8857 6438.
As you know there is also
The Dulwich Riding School, Dulwich Common, London SE21 7EX
020 8693 2944.
(Addresses and telephone numbers taken fron the internet.)
Joined 17-03-2005
Posted on Monday, 05 December, 2005 - 02:35 pm:   

Thanks Dommy, I knew it was up there somewhere!
Joined 22-11-2005
Posted on Tuesday, 06 December, 2005 - 04:30 pm:   

Thanks to all for feedback.
I will investigate further and will go look at the horses off of HOR tomorrow when walking my dog (nice longer walk for him)
I would love to see more horses in Forest Hill, personally - It's a dream and a bit of an ambition - if you too feel this way, you can mail me
(there is an underscore between my names)

~Scorpy Sue~
(been offline because of computer problems)
Joined 20-03-2005
Posted on Tuesday, 06 December, 2005 - 06:45 pm:   

A warm welcome to Scorpion as a resident from our council housing in Forest Hill. Our estates may be perceived by some to be not as salubrious as the greener parts of other areas in London, but I know that there are many conscientious and caring citizens living on them as I have met many of them. And our estates that need investment will benefit from Lewisham Council's Decent Homes 2010 programme and strategy that myself and our Deputy Mayor lead on. Scorpion, please think again about becoming involved in your TRA, we need enthusiastic people like you. And I write this as Lewisham's Cabinet Member for Housing.
Joined 29-10-2005
Posted on Wednesday, 07 December, 2005 - 01:50 pm:   

To Cllr Susan Wise, regarding the Decent Homes scheme.

You are now probably aware of the Audit Commission report of April, although the Commission says it had become more optimistic, the report suggests the council may not meet the Decent Homes standard by 2010 and demonstrates the number of 'non-decent' homes could increase (para. 117).

Further there is the following:-

"At the senior level the Council is aware that the timescale for delivering Decent Homes is potentially unachievable. In our view the Council is overly optimistic about what can be achieved by the 2010 deadline given the complexity of arrangements which may be put in place, depending on tenantsí views, and the heavy resource requirements and the lateness of the decision to undertake the stock options appraisal." (Para 244)

As usual the main problem is finance, do you think the government will have to step in with additional funds? By the way what are the penalties if the borough fails to meet the standards in time?

Further, a council report on achieving the decent homes standard was put before the council last June, at no point does it refer to the Audit Commission report of 2 months earlier.

Could that be one of the reasons the commission refers to the council as being "overly optimistic" ?

I don't know how the system works but if the Audit Commission produce reports for its own purposes seems pointless if they don't inform the council the results of the audit.

As a councillor would it not have been better to have known the results of the audit so you could better judge what was in the council report was deliverable?

(Explaination: Apparentlty ALMO's require 2 *stars to obtain central funding. Lewisham got one *star/Fair for Repair & Maintenance in April. In 2002 the commission awarded the borough one *star/Fair for Housing Management. A mock inspection in Nov 2004 again gave Management one *star with poor prospects of improvement.)
Joined 20-03-2005
Posted on Thursday, 08 December, 2005 - 02:24 pm:   

This is for Loneranger-it's real pleasure to find another local resident with a keen interest in Lewisham Council,but such a coincidence that this subject is currently an issue with the Borough's Opposition Party. And I cannot help but wonder, as your detailed comments are so similar to their's, if there is a connection between yourselves. Is there? However, I have been aware for some time of the Audit Commission's report,which has been available since April and we have have been, and are taking, action to address its recommendations via a detailed action plan.
Joined 19-05-2004
Posted on Thursday, 08 December, 2005 - 04:32 pm:   

Great a fight on line. Must be taking a leaf out of our local MP's book. Ho ho.
Joined 22-11-2005
Posted on Thursday, 08 December, 2005 - 04:39 pm:   

Hey! Don't hijack my thread! lol
Please, seriously, take this to another post/thread (relevant) or start a new thread. If you want people to notice it, and to take it seriously, raise the issue anew <wink>
Best wishes

~Scorpy Sue~

PS TYVM Cllr Susan Wise for your welcome and hello. Am thinking and working on it <wink>
Joined 29-10-2005
Posted on Thursday, 08 December, 2005 - 10:23 pm:   

Sainsbury's checkout must have been busy today, didn't expect that sort of response to a reasonable query.

~Scorpy Sue~ didn't mean to hi-jack your thread... I'll go elsewhere. ;)
Joined 20-03-2005
Posted on Friday, 09 December, 2005 - 04:23 pm:   

Sorry to disappoint Baggydave, but this will not be a fight on line, just an exchange of views and information.
Scorpion -thanks for your comments.
Loneranger-I'll check out other threads
Joined 17-03-2005
Posted on Friday, 09 December, 2005 - 05:59 pm:   

Disappointed to hear that Cllr Wise will not be standing again in Forest Hill ward but is off to another in 2006. Apparently Cllr Whiting wanted to move elsewhere but was unable to. So fortunately he is staying with us. I gather the chicken running is something to do with the perceived strength of the Liberal Democrats making former very safe Labour seats not so safe. Personally I would prefer to vote for tried and tested people such as Susan and Dave as rather than make a stand against the Labour Party. However I am a little disappointed that that Labour is effectively abandoning this area by running their reserve team, so to speak.
Joined 20-03-2005
Posted on Friday, 09 December, 2005 - 08:52 pm:   

Roz, thank you for your positive comments about myself and Dave. However, I am moving to Perry Vale ward, which is adjacent to Forest Hill ward, after what will be eight years here, because it is my home ward. And as the incumbent councillors are standing down after their 8years and 10years respective service, I have the opportunity to return home and have been welcomed back. I have enjoyed my time at Forest Hill very much and have been touched by the support and kindness of many FH residents, especially over the past year. It is a wrench to go, especially when I can now see, after much persistence, our labour-no pun intended- bear fruit in the regeneration of the area.I want to ensure that we get the credit for it too, as we did all this despite claims from others to take that credit.Thank you very much for the vote that I would've had from you, please transfer it to my successors, who I believe will return the ward. I'll still be around till May 06.
Joined 22-11-2005
Posted on Tuesday, 13 December, 2005 - 11:55 am:   

I went to Sainsburys on Friday night and did a fairly big shop (through necessity) - oh wait... I will post this on the other "Sainsburys" thread in a while.. but I think its great, some changes maybe needed, tweaking etc. but overall, I think is good for FH/people in general. I still wandered round my most used local shops (mainly on the) DR too though, on Friday and Saturday and spent my "normal" amount.
Anyway .........

I too was sad to read of your upcoming move (ward) Cllr Susan Wise but wish you good luck with it all. I hope I get to meet you/listen to you etc at an upcoming surgery or whatever soon though.

I have still, yet, to go see the horses off of HOR. Maybe tomorrow, I hope.

Have a good day/night all fellow Forest Hill-ers

~Scorpy Sue~

PS Loneranger - do you keep Silver in that field off of HOR? lol Sorry, just had to do that<wink>
Joined 29-10-2005
Posted on Wednesday, 14 December, 2005 - 09:05 am:   

~Scorpy Sue~ it's bad enough keeping my outfit perfectly clean let alone having the odour of a horse. So I know roam the hills and plains of SE23 with one of those likkle bitty mini bikes.

The school I went to used the stables at Dulwich to teach pupils riding...but the thought of cleaning out the stables didn't appeal to me, so opted for ice skating.
Joined 28-03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, 14 December, 2005 - 05:34 pm:   

Roz - sorry but I have found Philip Peake the new LibDem both effective and more supportive on the environmental issues I raised. I have found him more interested than the "tried and tested" alternative.
Joined 20-03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, 14 December, 2005 - 05:52 pm:   

Theotherbrian-perhaps you can share with us who you are, and remind us of when you consulted us and on what issues you feel we were ineffective and less than supportive to you.
SW and DW

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