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Joined 14-01-2005
Posted on Tuesday, 25 October, 2005 - 08:36 pm:   

On Shipman Road in Forest Hill there is a patch of land in front of a development that has become wildly overgrown. So much so that the fencing has collapsed and the area is frequently used for fly tipping.

Usually, following 2 or 3 calls to envirocall at the council the rubbish is removed. However, on this occassion I have called 8 times, each time to be told it has already been cleared!

Basically I am getting nowhere, it would be nice to have the rubbish removed and the area cleaned up a bit by the council. I have tried, envirocall, the councillors who cover this ward (no response) even the mayor (no response). Can anyone suggest a contact in our beloved council who I can contact who might actually do something about this?
Joined 04-03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, 26 October, 2005 - 08:28 am:   

I can't understand why the council would say that area has been cleared. There has been a resturant-sized tub of vegetable oil sitting on that patch of land for many months now.
Joined 30-03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, 26 October, 2005 - 10:11 am:   

The telephone number to call is 020 8314 7171 (Envirocall).

What I think is happening is that they are checking their database to see if you are reproting something that has already been reported and finding an old record.
Stress that you are reporting a new job and that the rubbish is still there when you telephone.
I use a mobile to report dumped rubbish. so if they said it has been removed I could say "I am standing near it and am looking at it."
Joined 14-01-2005
Posted on Wednesday, 26 October, 2005 - 09:43 pm:   

Ahh, Sherwood if only it were that simple. Its a classic case of 'computer say's no' I'm afraid. I have called envirocall 9 times now, and am told each time that the job I initially reported has been closed by the refuse collectors as they have already removed it. Each time I report it as a new offence and it is closed. I have tried the mobile thing, and even asked if I can send them a photo to prove it is still here, but alas 'computer say's no'...hence my attempt at councillors/mayor etc - waste of time.
Joined 30-03-2005
Posted on Thursday, 27 October, 2005 - 09:12 am:   

Strange! They always take rubbish away when I ask them, eventually.
Is the rubbish on private ground?
It is an offence to fly-tip on private ground.
But the Council probably will not clear it.
All you can do, then is contact your councillor to ask him to talk to Envirocall.
From your posting, the rubbish may be on private land. It may be that they want the owner to pay for the clearance.
Joined 04-03-2005
Posted on Thursday, 27 October, 2005 - 12:08 pm:   

Maybe we should call the Pure Lake development company, they are the ones who are developing the site.
Joined 30-03-2005
Posted on Thursday, 27 October, 2005 - 01:12 pm:   

I think that would be a good idea. Possibly what has happened in the past is that the Council has cleared their site and asked for payment. But it normally has no responsibility to clear a private site (unless it is a health hazard - I think.). I think if you telephone the developer it might provoke them to clear the site or fence it off until they get round to starting the building. (Presumably the site board has telephone number for the company.)
Joined 24-03-2004
Posted on Thursday, 27 October, 2005 - 04:36 pm:   

I take it then that the council has no power to make people clear up a load of mess in their front garden then? Can anyone confirm this either way?

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