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Roz
Joined 17-03-2005
Posted on Saturday, 17 September, 2005 - 10:58 am:   

We are now the proud owners of a full size green recycling bin which can be ordered free of charge. We're really getting into it - we now also have a wormery so are actually putting minimal rubbish into our grey bins.

I was pleased to receive a copy of ' recycling works' from Lewisham Council, only to find it is itself printed on non recyclable , waxed paper- exactly what can't be recycled!

Why? The Council needs to be printing this stuff on unbleached, unwaxed paper if it wants to get its message across.
Neo
Joined 09-04-2005
Posted on Saturday, 17 September, 2005 - 08:08 pm:   

We have a green paper bin which is quite small, Roz do you have a green dustbin for recycling? If so what can you put in it? I noticed in Dulwich that they have brown garden waste recycling bins and bags - now they would be useful.
Roz
Joined 17-03-2005
Posted on Saturday, 17 September, 2005 - 11:25 pm:   

yes the green dustbin is Lewishams answer to the Southwark brown bin. You can put all recyclable items in it, ie bottles, cardboard. ( not Tetra cartons)- news papers, cereal boxes,= everything but the Lewisham recycling magazine. That has to go to the landfill. You can buy the bags for garden waste I think.
Theotherbrian
Joined 28-03-2005
Posted on Monday, 19 September, 2005 - 05:50 pm:   

Oooh goodie - my favourite soapbox to jump on.
I use my green box for bottles, cans, paper, card, etc., etc. I compost as much as I can in kitchen and garden waste. For excess garden waste and conifer prunings I buy a roll of 10 garden waste recycling bags for 10. I always take my own bags to Sainsbury's. I think I do my bit. However, plastics seem to mount up and these I now have to take to the nearest estate recycling point. I fail to understand why Lewisham can provide these, so presumably recycles plastics, yet I cannot put them in the green box. This is a growing problem especially as Sainsbury's are doing their bit for the environment by increasing the amount of plastic packaging they force you to take home - plastic boxes for fresh herbs ( why?) and plastic bottles for milk. There must be a desperate need for the doorstep recycling scheme to include plastics yet thousands of tonnes a week must go off to landfill to stay there for evermore. Even Lambeth (used to live there so I know just how bad it was) now accepts plastic in their doorstep scheme - why not LBL. Perhaps they need the money for the Mayor ( what DOES he do??) and a magazine to tell us all just how wonderful they are. Sorry I could go on and on - sad, I know! It's just so unnecessary.
Roz
Joined 17-03-2005
Posted on Monday, 19 September, 2005 - 10:42 pm:   

Maybe a Lewisham councillor could comment on the plastic situation? I would like to separate them from my main rubbish but there is no incentive as I'll never get around to taking them anywhere.

As you can see I'm really getting into this recycling lark. This has been prompted by a few recent experiences - having a house full of plastic bags and other items which are taking us over. The other incentive was yesterday when I realised I had spent 2 precious hours sorting through two weeks of junk and other unsolicited mail . I am now subscribing to the mail preference service which stops this.

Earlier in the year my husband was a victim of credit card fraud where these unsolicited cheques issued by mastercard etc were thrown away in the bin. Someone had obviously got hold of these and used them to run up a bill of 2000. Forunately we were reimbursed. And now we have to spend more of our precious time shredding all this junk mail from banks and credit card companies. Hope this mail preference thingy will stop this.

We've all got better things to do.
Bosco
Joined 16-07-2004
Posted on Tuesday, 20 September, 2005 - 09:41 am:   

Totally agree re plastics - I dispose of more plastic than anything else - drives me absolutely crackers that so much supermarket produce is overpackaged in plastic. If I could put plastics in the recycling bin my black wheelie bin would be half empty most weeks.

Many councils claim that they don't do plastic doorstep collection because the demand isn't there - that's absolute nonsense! The only reason I might understand is that the plastic recycling plant is 100s of miles away and therefore the fuel used to transport all the plastic uses more energy than is saved by the recycling itself
Ab3
Joined 17-03-2005
Posted on Tuesday, 20 September, 2005 - 01:30 pm:   

I understand that from 16th or 17th October, the recycle boxes will be collected weekly, and they will start to collect plastic as well. I believe I read it in Mercury newspaper. We should expect a leaflet soon.
Brian
Joined 18-04-2005
Posted on Tuesday, 20 September, 2005 - 01:55 pm:   

Well done Lewisham

Does anybody know of a way of stopping this endless supply of advertising that comes through my door endless times a day. This alone fills up my recycling bin.
Ophelia
Joined 18-03-2005
Posted on Tuesday, 20 September, 2005 - 02:34 pm:   

You could always put one of those twee little notes next to your letter box saying you don't want circulars or junk mail and leave it to the deliverer to stop themselves from putting through the latest advert for pizzas. No idea if it works! Saw a good one in someone's hallway recently - "No smoking please, we prefer to die from natural causes"!
Bosco
Joined 16-07-2004
Posted on Tuesday, 20 September, 2005 - 04:05 pm:   

The number of pizza menus I come home to every night is ridiculous - the only reason I don't have a little note saying I don't want any more takeaway menus is I've lost one for one of the few places that does wood fire pizzas and I'm waiting in hope for it to be on my mat one evening - sadly, in this instance, they don't seem to have a policy of carpet bombing SE23 residents with menus every three days.
Ophelia
Joined 18-03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, 21 September, 2005 - 10:11 am:   

There's also an option of having your milk delivered in a bottle which then gets used again. Express Dairies deliver in Forest Hill. Appreciate you need a doorstep/access but it would save on the heavy duty plastic bottles and help keep someone in work.
Bosco
Joined 16-07-2004
Posted on Wednesday, 21 September, 2005 - 12:41 pm:   

Yes Ophelia but unfortunately we ended up cancelling our milk delivery as it reached a point where our milk wasn't being delivered until after 8.30am (when we leave to go to work) and on Saturdays it often wasn't delivered until after midday.

As a service it simply didn't meet our requirements and I don't think the requirement that we have milk on our doorstep before breakfast is a particularly onerous one. It is that very convenience that people pay for - if I didn't want milk until after 8am I'd simply go up to the corner shop which opens at 8.
Cllrdavidwhiting
Joined 07-12-2003
Posted on Wednesday, 21 September, 2005 - 10:17 pm:   

The doorstep service will be extended from October and plastics will be collected. The service will also be simplified. The same types of material will be collected from all the different recycling points, whether doorstep green boxes (themselves made from recycled material incidentally), green wheelies, estate collection points and the other collection bins around the borough. At the moment there is some variation between these services.

To get off to a good start, we aim to put across a single well-publicised message about this through a coordinated launch of the new arrangements. We think this is the best way to maximise collection levels.

However, in the meantime, you can already put recyclable plastics in your green boxes.

Roz says in an early post that 'Recycling Works' is not recyclable. This is not so. I have checked with our technical people. 'Recycling Works' is recyclable, as is any paper, whether coated or not, any telephone directory and any cardboard.
Roz
Joined 17-03-2005
Posted on Thursday, 22 September, 2005 - 09:39 pm:   

If this magazine is indeed recyclable, then it should really state this clearly so that there is no doubt,and that people are motivated to put it in the recycle bin. It perhaps should also be on 100% recycled paper. All I can go on is what is said in the magazine itself, ie you can't recycle waxed paper, and it certainly seemed waxed to me.
Jo108
Joined 03-03-2005
Posted on Thursday, 06 October, 2005 - 10:31 pm:   

Hooray for recycling plastics! Congrats and thanks to council!

Am confused though, can we put all plastics in there now, or is there still a recylable plastic only policy? And if some plastic is recyclable and some isn't, what's the point of recycling the non recyclable stuff, if you see what I mean? Perhaps the council's communication can explain in layman's terms what we can and can't put in the box, for the benefit of the easily confused.
Jo108
Joined 03-03-2005
Posted on Monday, 31 October, 2005 - 05:12 pm:   

Still confused...

Cllr Whiting - can you clarify the plastics thing please?

thanks!


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