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Adam
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Posted on Wednesday, 26 January, 2005 - 10:20 am:   

Does anyone actually know what the new store is to offer (apart from more sq ft floor space)

fish counter? bigger bakery? meat counter? cheese/olives counter? Like Dog Kennel Hill & Savacentre!

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Brian
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Posted on Thursday, 27 January, 2005 - 08:16 am:   

Adam
I seem to remember seeing the plans many years ago.This has be on going since Queen Victoria ( only jesting but seems a long time )
I do not think the actual store size will increase by more than say 10%. Hopefully there will be speciality areas and Cafe.
It certainly will not be as large as DKH
Hilltop General
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Posted on Thursday, 27 January, 2005 - 09:11 am:   

Well no, not unless they knocked down the entire block.

10% is not all that credible either though if you trhink about the row of houses being knocked down, and if it were only 10% bigger with a cafe then overall it would end up snmaller...

Did see somewhere the "before" and "after" square footages somewhere, and it is about 505 bigger, or half as big again.

I have also dropped them a line asking what there is going to be, but I'm not holding my breath. Will post any reply.
Adam
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Posted on Thursday, 27 January, 2005 - 10:29 am:   

LOL

its going from 16,000sq ft to 23,000 sq ft. Thanks Brian & Hilltop, lets hope JS/Good relations reply!
Sue
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Posted on Thursday, 27 January, 2005 - 01:17 pm:   

For those of you interested Sainsbury's plans can be seen on this website in the Features section. Plans are dated March 2003 so may be a little out of date but should be some sort of guide.
Hilltop General
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Posted on Thursday, 27 January, 2005 - 03:53 pm:   

----Original Message-----

From: el.generalissimo@upperdulwichbottom.co.uk
Sent: 27.01.2005 01:53:33 PM
To:
Subject: RE: RE: Locator - Forest Hill store London SE23

Right...so you have started building something, but haven't decided what yet? Seems unlikely.

Perhaps you could pass this query on to the relevant department that deals with new developments - whether that be properties/estates/planning - for a response?

el Generalissimo

-----Original Message-----
From: customerservice@sainsburys.co.uk [mailto:customerservice@sainsburys.co.uk]
Sent: 27 January 2005 13:34
To: General
Subject: RE: RE: Locator - Forest Hill store London SE23


Dear Sir,

Thank you for your further e-mail regarding the new Forest Hill store.

I am sorry that you were unhappy with my colleague Humpty Dumpty's response to your previous e-mail. I can assure you it was intended in good faith, and I know my colleague made every effort to reply to your question fairly and honestly.

Unfortunately, at this moment in time we do not have details of what will be available in store, as changes can be sometimes be made quite late in the store's development. We do not receive this information until the store is completed and ready to open. Please accept my sincere apologies for not being able to assist you at this time.

As my colleague, Humpty, previously advised you, the information you require will be placed on our website store locator just before the new store opens.

Thank you again for taking the time to contact us.

Kind regards,

Simple Simon
Sainsbury's Customer Services

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-----Original Message-----

From: el.generalissimo@upperdulwichbottom.co.uk
Sent: 27.01.2005 10:22:18 AM
To:
Subject: RE: Locator - Forest Hill store London SE23

I know what's there at the moment, man! I shop in the bl**dy place every week, more's the pity.

Read the question. I'm not asking what's there, I'm asking what's GOING to be there, in the new store.

-----Original Message-----
From: customerservice@sainsburys.co.uk [mailto:customerservice@sainsburys.co.uk]
Sent: 27 January 2005 10:08
To: General
Subject: RE: Locator - Forest Hill store London SE23


Dear General,

Thank you for your e-mail.

You can see a full list of the departments and ranges of our stores on our store locator, www.sainsburys.co.uk/storelocator/

Enter the name of the town or the postcode and it will load the nearest stores in that area. Once the store list is visible select 'Go To Store' and this will bring up that particular stores details.

I hope that this information is of use to you.

Thank you once again for contacting us.

Kind regards,

Humpty Dumpty
Sainsbury's Customer Services

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-----Original Message-----

From: el.generalissimo@upperdulwichbottom.co.uk
Sent: 26.01.2005 11:42:33 AM
To:
Subject: Locator - Forest Hill store London SE23

The following comments have been made:

Email: el.generalissimo@upperdulwichbottom.co.uk
Subject: Forest Hill store London SE23
Comments: Hello there. I see you have finally got going on the new store. Is it possible to find out somewhere what the new store will have? E.g. will there be a deli counter, fresh fish counter, butchers? We are a bit lacking in that sort of thing at the moment - so much so that I hardly get to eat any fish anymore! I really do hope you are adding some extra features as well as square feet and would love to find out. Seems a shame not to be able to offer as much as possible to your customers - at the moment there isn't the opportunity to buy all that much. Look forward to hearing from you, el Generalissimo
Hilltop General
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Posted on Thursday, 27 January, 2005 - 03:54 pm:   

Well here we are - I'm not normally this grumpy but they annoyed me last time I tried to ask them a question so I was in no mood for any nonsense this time. Names have been changed to protect the innocent.


Dear General,

Thank you for your e-mail.

Sainsbury's work very hard to ensure that we make fully considered and appropriate resopnses to our customers enquiries. I am very sorry that we have got it so badly wrong on this occasion. To get it wrong on one occasion is bad enough, but for you to receive two such bland responses beggers belief. I am at a loss to explain how this has happened and I will certainly feed this matter back to the line managers of the agents concerned so that suitable advice can be given.

To answer your question in more detail, I can confirm that our Forest Hill store is currently undergoing a major redevelopment that will increase is overall floor space by just over 50%. When complete the store will have a new delicetessen, bakery and extended counter butchery. You will also benefit from a vastly increased range of fresh produce both fruit and vegetables and pre packed fresh meat. Recent improvements in the supply chain will ensure that the supply of stock to these new areas will be greatly improved. There will also provision for a new entrance kiosk with improved easy access layout for News, cigarettes, Lottery terminal and confectionary.

I do hope that this has been more informative for you.

Kind regards,

The boss
Customer Manager
Sainsbury's Customer Services

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BaggyDave
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Posted on Thursday, 27 January, 2005 - 05:32 pm:   

We talk about a more vibrant Forest Hill and all the time we are more interested in what the new and larger supermarket will sell. Products at Sainsburys are dull. Savacentre is worse as it is bigger and just as uninteresting (apart from the guy who scams you at the garage). Tescos is extremely limited. The supermarkets have taken over the high street, and are busy finishing off the corner shop and the garage.

I'm not going to Beckenham Waitrose (a more enlightened store), although I know some people who are proud to walk around with Waitrose bags - good snob value. At Liddle and Aldi you get a continental feeling (ie it is like being in central Europe) - I'm saying this in an amusing and pro-diversity way before anyone gets on their hobby horse. At least there is some individuality in Lordship Lane and you can get some enjoyment out of the shopping experience. Unfortunately it seems that most of the people in my posh estate (and probably the rest of you out there) would rather drive to the supermarket for a big shop (that's if they'd not dispensed of physically going to the shops all together) than spend some quality time getting to know and helping to develop the neighbourhood and community. And don't give me that nonsense about not having time - you can make it.

Angry angry angry. And I used to enjoy the website!
Hilltop General
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Posted on Thursday, 27 January, 2005 - 07:28 pm:   

Not all of us have cars. The supermarket is a necessity for most of us given that we work during the day. I should prefer that my local supermarket (a) sells a reasonable selection of food in non-East German style, and (b)does not blight the high street and further hamper the efforts of independent shops, of which I will support any decent ones.

Seem fair enough?
Adam
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Posted on Thursday, 27 January, 2005 - 08:35 pm:   

Thanks for all the solid research Hilltop, and to Brian/Sue etc for the other comments.

BaggyD, I was asking as I know Sainsburys have changed the design of the store on more than one occasion. As you well know we have one of the best butchers in London on Woodvale, but we don't have a decent bakers in FH (none infact) nor a fish mongers, although I do know a guy who sells fresh fish from Hastings one day a week in FH from the back of a van. Sadly we are all out working to make use of the amenity. I for one, will still support the local amenities that provide the quality/service!

A
Styx
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Posted on Thursday, 27 January, 2005 - 09:00 pm:   

Of course, we had a fresh fish shop ... until Sainsbury's decided to sell fresh fish. And we had two butchers' and two bakers' until fairly recently. I suspect Sainsbury's played a part in the demise of those, as well
Adam
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Posted on Thursday, 27 January, 2005 - 09:14 pm:   

The bakers on Dartmouth Road have been gone years and years. I don't ever recall a fish mongers in Forest Hill, can anyone else provide details if we did?
Hilltop General
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Posted on Thursday, 27 January, 2005 - 11:11 pm:   

Sainsbury don't sell fresh fish anyway - well, I'm not libelling their products but it's all the packaged stuff.

Not sure people eat it enough to sustain specialist shops anyway except in affluent areas.
Steve Grindlay
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Posted on Thursday, 27 January, 2005 - 11:19 pm:   

It was called, I believe, Conns, and was in the present Red Cross shop in London Road until the early 1980s. Ironically this was part of Sainsbury's original shop in Forest Hill a century ago, as you can see from the mosaic in the doorway.
julianm
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Posted on Friday, 28 January, 2005 - 06:44 am:   

Going back a bit, I recall a shop called Mac Fisheries that was on the left at the start of Dartmouth Road as you walk from the station.
megan
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Posted on Friday, 28 January, 2005 - 10:04 am:   

To be honest I now get my fish from a shop called F C Soper in Nunhead, but if you don't drive its a nightmare to get to. The health food shop sells nice bread.
Adam
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Posted on Friday, 28 January, 2005 - 10:41 am:   

Megan, Sopers is fantastic, the quality is second to none. But as you point out, not the best location. it's a nightmare to park down there too!
ToffeeJim
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Posted on Friday, 28 January, 2005 - 11:43 am:   

For those of us on the side of the tracks where the pubs are open we can support the excellent shops in Catford. A lot of people are a bit sniffy about Catford but the place has everything I'd like to see Forest Hill have shopping-wise. I do a lot of shopping in the excellent Turkish supermarket/bakery Fadil's on Catford Bridge and it's easy to pick up fruit and veg from several different independent outlets. There's also one of those oh so continental Lidl's. All of these places provide the shopping for a good deal less money than you'd pay at Sainsbury's. And if I get really, really desperate for any must have middle-class delicacy I can pop into the Tescos in the Catford Centre
BaggyDave
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Posted on Friday, 28 January, 2005 - 01:28 pm:   

Thanks Toffee Jim, I must move to Catford/Lower Sydenham/East Forest Hill straight away.

Continuing on the theme of decent independent shops Slatters Bakery in Sydenham is excellent. So good that it sells out by Saturday lunch time. It's focusing more on its celebration cake image and unfortunately removed several framed photos of when Ken Slatter was on the generation game in the 70s and 80s (he also appeared in the 90s) with contestants having to plat bread and pipe icing (how we laughed in those halcyon days you young folk).

It started to go seriously wrong when they developed the means to transport frozen dough to the supermarkets (all they do is bake it). It still isn't the same as a bakers shop though.

My point is you may as well live, work, eat, shop and then be buried in the supermarket. That is what they are after.

Travelling through Peckham each evening shows what a vibrant high street can be like - and I've yet to witness muggings and drive-by shootings. After my on-slaught against Sainsbury's yesterday I thought I'd check out Safeways/Morrisons. Just as dismal

Well at least my rant has started some decent disussion, even if a few more enlightened people (not you TJ) probably wont change the world.
BaggyDave
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Posted on Friday, 28 January, 2005 - 02:41 pm:   

Thanks Toffee Jim, I must move to Catford/Lower Sydenham/East Forest Hill straight away.

Continuing on the theme of decent independent shops Slatters Bakery in Sydenham is excellent. So good that it sells out by Saturday lunch time. It's focusing more on its celebration cake image and unfortunately removed several framed photos of when Ken Slatter was on the generation game in the 70s and 80s (he also appeared in the 90s) with contestants having to plat bread and pipe icing (how we laughed in those halcyon days you young folk).

It started to go seriously wrong when they developed the means to transport frozen dough to the supermarkets (all they do is bake it). It still isn't the same as a bakers shop though.

My point is you may as well live, work, eat, shop and then be buried in the supermarket. That is what they are after.

Travelling through Peckham each evening shows what a vibrant high street can be like - and I've yet to witness muggings and drive-by shootings. After my on-slaught against Sainsbury's yesterday I thought I'd check out Safeways/Morrisons. Just as dismal

Well at least my rant has started some decent disussion, even if a few more enlightened people (not you TJ) probably wont change the world.
megan
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Posted on Friday, 28 January, 2005 - 03:18 pm:   

to be honest if i could find a decent local butcher and grocer I wouldn't need to shop in one of the big supermarkets, does anyone know of a decent butcher I have been getting my fruit and veg from East Dulwich lately there is a good grocers in Northcross Road.
Brian
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Posted on Friday, 28 January, 2005 - 05:05 pm:   

Megan
I believe Sydenham Rd has a good butcher
Les
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Posted on Saturday, 29 January, 2005 - 12:06 am:   

There is a good butcher on Wood Vale, next to the hairdressers. It doesn't look that promising, but that man really knows his err pigs and things. Always a queue on Sat am for good reason.

I can't wait for BBQ season again...
M
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Posted on Tuesday, 01 February, 2005 - 01:41 pm:   

Everybody has a go at supermarkets but they do offer a better range of food than all the little shops put together that used to be in Forest Hill. The good shops like Provender continue to thrive despite supermarkets.

Sainsbury's offer a reasonable range of fish and although it is not straight off the boat, it is vacuum packed and very fresh. If you want fresh there is a van that turns up by WHSmiths on Thursday morning (a completely impractical time for me).

Supermarket stay open when I want to shop, and increasingly they delivery for free. We are very lucky in Forest Hill that Sainsburys and Waitrose both deliver for free (on certain days in the case of Sainsbury's). It means that when I do go to the supermarket or local shops I can enjoy the experience as I don't have to worry about all the essentials that I can get delivered any time.
CT
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Posted on Tuesday, 01 February, 2005 - 02:50 pm:   

Well said M!

There's a good reason why shops close when a supermarket opens in the area - it's cos they're generally rubbish and can't compete. However, good shops with their own usp will continue regardless. Shops like sainsbury's force everyone else to raise their game or go out of business - law of the jungle! The clever ones improve their quality and offer something sainsbury's can't. Which is good for us!
Cookie
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Posted on Tuesday, 01 February, 2005 - 04:07 pm:   

Meanwhile, on planet earth...
ToffeeJim
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Posted on Tuesday, 01 February, 2005 - 04:47 pm:   

Well said Cookie. Tell me CT are your initials short for Complete Tosh or just for Complete T....... oh never mind
megan
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Posted on Tuesday, 01 February, 2005 - 04:58 pm:   

CT the reason shops close is because narrow minded people like you only shop in the big supermarkets!!!!!
PVP
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Posted on Tuesday, 01 February, 2005 - 05:21 pm:   

However, many other areas have supermarkets and more niche players (deli's, coffee bars) but Forest Hill has shown incapable of supporting both sides in the past.

I was in Blackheath last Friday - now that is a nice place, and it also has a big road going through the middle (our perennial excuse).
Hilltop General
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Posted on Tuesday, 01 February, 2005 - 09:20 pm:   

Erm yes, but it's not the South Circular is it? Put the shops on the Shooter's Hill Rd and see how they would do.
Mike
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Posted on Tuesday, 01 February, 2005 - 10:27 pm:   

I'm sorry but this is typical of SE23.com folk and chat being completely unrealistic. If you want fancy boutiquey type shops don't shop at supermarkets - agreed. You should travel, and, if there are enough of you willing to do so then you'll find that your posh market stalls will soon arrive in FH. They only disappeared because there weren't enough people shopping at them. So Megan, when you say 'narrow minded' you're referring to the majority of FH residents.

HG, Cookie, Megan, TJ etc have you shopped in Sainsbury's recently? I'm guessing - yes. Come back down to earth astronauts.
CT
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Posted on Wednesday, 02 February, 2005 - 10:54 am:   

Blimey - who'd have thought I'd have caused such an uproar by daring to support our friendly local supermarket.

No time for personal insults (sorry not playing!)

I agree mike - most of the people who deride it will happily shop in sainsburys (and then hate themselves - god it's awful being middle class isn't it!)

So tell me - what's actually wrong with sainsbury's then?
Hilltop General
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Posted on Wednesday, 02 February, 2005 - 11:02 am:   

Quite. I think we are deluding ourselves if we think we can manage without supermarkets.

I am not Sainsbury's greatest fan but that is mainly to do with this particular ahop. Other shops have their place but are not all that useful for those of us who are at work during the day and often not around on Saturdays.

I don't really think FH is an affluent enough area to sustain all these things on our wish lists.
Cookie
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Posted on Wednesday, 02 February, 2005 - 11:18 am:   

I shop at one of the big supermarkets and use a couple of smaller local shops for stuff like bread etc. I don't suffer from a middle class guilt about it, but at the same time, there isn't much choice nowadays as the big hitters have steamrollered everyone else out of business.

Does anyone really believe that Sainsbury's and the other big supermarkets enjoy dominant status due to their hyper efficiency, fantastic service etc - give me a break. I suppose you also believe that the success of Wetherspoons is down to the fact that they are much better than the pubs that have been unable to compete. The Sainsbury's at FH and the one at Sydenham are great examples of why I don't shop with that particular bunch of comedians - rude staff who can barely raise themselves to acknowledge your existence, half empty shelves - our friendly local supermarket - excuse me whilst I fall over laughing.
CT
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Posted on Wednesday, 02 February, 2005 - 11:49 am:   

Now that you're on the ground cookie I'll use the opportunity to get on my high horse!

Firstly sainsbury's (or any other 'big-box') aren't interested in closing everyone else down - they need the other shops as much as other shops need them (in order to create what's called a critical mass and a destination that brings the punters in). We shouldn't forget that sainsbury's aren't in competetion with the local trader but with tescos' waitrose asda et al.

If a local trader tries to compete with a big box (doing 'ordinary' food) then they're likely to fail. However, other more specialist shops that offer something that supermarkets can't will do well. They'll do even better by being sited next to a supermarket too!

The example of pubs is a good one and I thank you for bringing it up! If you can cast your mind back to before the capital opened FH was full of (lets be honest) pretty mundane boozers - I'm thinking Dartmouth Arms before the refurb. What Wetherspoons have done is cream off the low end cheap beer no frills part of the market and of course all the old boozers that were trying that ended up suffering. However, people with a smart business heads saw that there was now an opening for more classy affairs and we're now seeing pubs like the new Dartmouth Arms opening up.

So to keep it simple - there isn't just one market for food, beer or anything else - it's a bit more complicated than that. There is one market that the supermarkets operate in (and which small business people would do well to avoid) and then there are myriad 'lifestyle' markets. Each seperate market should be seen as being complementary to each other and not in conflict.
Cookie
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Posted on Wednesday, 02 February, 2005 - 12:08 pm:   

CT, I agree with you on one thing - the issue is more complicated than either of us have portrayed it. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to post a 10,000 word essay on consumerism and its affects on our society as a whole. It's the sort of topic that we could debate for hours and probably still not find any common ground. All I can say is that FH deserves a number of niche players to offset the shiny, happy new Sainsbury's and maybe with recent successes and the possibility of a new coffee bar, this is now a realistic goal.
fanboy_mark
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Posted on Wednesday, 02 February, 2005 - 01:37 pm:   

So... When is it going to be finished then?
AJ
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Posted on Wednesday, 02 February, 2005 - 01:39 pm:   

Based on the time it has taken so far...2016, I believe.
fanboy_mark
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Posted on Wednesday, 02 February, 2005 - 01:43 pm:   

I like the statue; all supermarkets need a statue.
Newman
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Posted on Wednesday, 02 February, 2005 - 02:03 pm:   

A statue of a disgruntled shopper waving a defiant fist at a surly checkout girl would be appropriate in this case.
fanboy_mark
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Posted on Wednesday, 02 February, 2005 - 02:08 pm:   

I believe that it is entitled: ‘The Bread Stick Of Defiance’.
Newman
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Posted on Wednesday, 02 February, 2005 - 02:16 pm:   

Or how about pucker mockney wideboy Jamie Oliver on his moped, draped in a union jack and giving a big thumbs up? They could put it by the front doors. I'm sure that this would give Sainsbury's customers a calm, reassuring feeling as they file in for their weekly shop. But a warning to Sainsbury's, if you use this idea without crediting me for it, I will sue.
ToffeeJim
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Posted on Wednesday, 02 February, 2005 - 03:38 pm:   

How about a bench to sit on for all those who can't be bothered to use other local traders? Or a collage showing all the different transport methods used to rack up the foodmiles on the average bit of Sainsbury's produce. Or the edge of a large knife to signify the uncertain existence many of their suppliers have to live in. I could go on......and probably will.
fanboy_mark
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Posted on Wednesday, 02 February, 2005 - 03:42 pm:   

I like supermarkets.
Newman
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Posted on Wednesday, 02 February, 2005 - 03:55 pm:   

Me too - I particularly like the bit where you have to queue up for ages at the checkouts for the privilege of having a wage slave throw your shopping at you.
fanboy_mark
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Posted on Wednesday, 02 February, 2005 - 04:22 pm:   

Are you sure you're not thinking of 'It's A Knockout'?
Mrs H
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Posted on Wednesday, 02 February, 2005 - 04:51 pm:   

Maybe I've lived in London too long, but I think the people who work in FH Sainsburys are really quite friendly. How can anyone say that the lovely old man who usually works on the kiosk is unfriendly?

I worked in a supermarket years ago - its very difficult to be happy and smiley when many of the customers are barely civil in return. Rather than thinking of supermarket workers as 'wage slaves', try saying hello and thankyou and I bet you get a better response.

O dear, I'm turning into my mother.
fanboy_mark
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Posted on Wednesday, 02 February, 2005 - 05:07 pm:   

I am always amazed at how friendly the people at Forest Hill Sainsburys are. I grew up in East London and it's like a different world.
Newman
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Posted on Thursday, 03 February, 2005 - 09:55 am:   

My crack about wage slaves was directed at the supermarkets themselves (in regard to their policy of minimum wage/maximum profits) rather than the actual checkout people...It sometimes feels like you have to signpost every comment you make on this site.
CT
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Posted on Thursday, 03 February, 2005 - 11:50 am:   

Newman - I do think Mrs H is onto something there though - it is amazing how ordinarily decent people can behave appallingly when confronted by situations that they feel they have no control over or which cause them to feel self-disgust - like middle class people in a supermarket. Just cos you say you don't like big corps it doesn't justify treating people who work there like 2nd class citizens. I've seen people be really rude to supermarket workers and then pop into a local shop and be all sweetness and light.

In my student days I had a number of jobs which inc working in a large supermarket and I can honestly say it wasn't that bad. It's the small places where the manager owns the place that are underpaid, overworked and over supervised.

But that's just my experience!
Newman
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Posted on Thursday, 03 February, 2005 - 11:58 am:   

CT, my comments were made with tongue firmly in cheek. I can assure you that I'm all sweetness and light when dealing with checkout girls/boys, even when they are rude. In fact, I usually try and strike up a conversation with them - that's the kind of nice guy I am! I worked in a number of supermarkets during my student days and certainly don't advocate treating people who work there like 2nd class citizens. Just thought I would clear that one up.
ronnie
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Posted on Thursday, 03 February, 2005 - 01:20 pm:   

In case its passed anyone by, the work has now started with an estimated completion date of Nov 2005.
Brian
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Posted on Friday, 04 February, 2005 - 02:30 pm:   

I agree the vast majority of the staff at Sainsbury FH are very friendly if you are friendly to them. To many people ignore the staff and treat them like they do not exist.
BaggyDave
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Posted on Monday, 07 February, 2005 - 12:16 pm:   

I take it all back after seeing the new Sainsburys in Pimlico. It was like one great big Deli, OK so this wont happen in FH and in turn no doubt the new store in Pimlico will put a dozen small shops out of business and Sainsburys are really turning the screw on our farmers (but being urban types we shouldn't care about that)
M Traylor (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Tuesday, 08 February, 2005 - 02:26 pm:   

Watchout - A warning to shoppers at the Sainsbury's in Forest Hill, and everywhere else I suppose.
I had my handbag stolen yesterday inside Sainsburys (house keys, purse, etc etc). I did leave it on the trolley, which I realise, especially now, was a stupid thing to do but be carefull. According to one of the staff members, another lady had her bag stolen the prevouis day while someone distracted her by asking the time.
Newman
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Posted on Tuesday, 08 February, 2005 - 04:29 pm:   

Woman has handbag stolen shocker!!! Yes, leaving it on the trolley was stupid. Is your first name Michelle by any chance?
E (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Tuesday, 08 February, 2005 - 04:55 pm:   

I think that last post was a bit harsh. The poster admitted her mistake in leaving the bag in the trolley. It sounded to me like she was just trying to warn others to learn from her mistake.
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Posted on Tuesday, 08 February, 2005 - 05:08 pm:   

Had a bag stolen in M&S last year - not to say FH is full of muggers Newman, just that there are people hanging around (as in all public places) looking for such opportunites, so don't give them one. Incidentally M&S were awful - couldn't be bothered to check CCTV etc, Next (some stolen vouchers were stolen and quickly used) were much better and even made up some of the money.
danny (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Wednesday, 09 February, 2005 - 08:47 am:   

Newman lives on planet 'Tolerance', anything at all can happen there and it's all absolutely fine.
Newman
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Posted on Wednesday, 09 February, 2005 - 09:03 am:   

Hello, Danny, always a pleasure to hear from you. Despite my challenge of a couple of weeks ago, I see that you've still yet to make any interesting observations on life in FH - except for the stunning revelation that you quite like the Foresters. So, in the absence of anything interesting to say, you have once again opted for the policy of attempting to have a go at me. Keep up the good work, 'mate'.
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Posted on Wednesday, 09 February, 2005 - 09:37 am:   

Had a bag stolen in M&S last year - not to say FH is full of muggers Newman, just that there are people hanging around (as in all public places) looking for such opportunites, so don't give them one. Incidentally M&S were awful - couldn't be bothered to check CCTV etc, Next (some stolen vouchers were stolen and quickly used) were much better and even made up some of the money.
danny (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Wednesday, 09 February, 2005 - 09:42 am:   

hahaha. :-)

i just thought your comment was a little harsh, that's all. can you put your toys back in your pram now?
Newman
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Posted on Wednesday, 09 February, 2005 - 10:00 am:   

I would put my toys back in my pram but unfortunately they were stolen last week by the muggers that you and Michelle find so interesting. Honestly, you need a bullet proof vest and a bodyguard to venture out these days. I only left the toys in the pram for a couple of minutes whilst out for a stroll in the posh estate and some young herbert had them away. What is se23 coming to, Danny? Danny, won't you tell us what we should do to stop this problem?
danny (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Wednesday, 09 February, 2005 - 10:23 am:   

Calm down dear.
PVP (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Wednesday, 09 February, 2005 - 10:34 am:   

This definitely is not a commercial (for FH)
Newman
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Posted on Wednesday, 09 February, 2005 - 10:37 am:   

Is that the best you can do? Ho hum, where's my good mate Dave? He may well be a veggie beer guzzling luvvie, but at least he's good for a few amusing one liners and intelligent comments.
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Posted on Wednesday, 09 February, 2005 - 11:28 am:   

Dave's at work (having not been ambushed on the Peckham canal path on the way in) but normal service will be resumed shortly. Well I've started now so I may as well continue. Like pickpockets there are people hanging round stores waiting for you to be distracted. But all my even posher badminton Bromley lot think London is full of people like this which is why they deserted the metropolis for the leafy suburbs. Most of us here are more enlightened.

In the good old days my good mate Atila the Stockbroker had a poem "Iranian Students from Hell" as at that time everything was blamed on them (by the Daily Mail set). I'm sure this can be updated to include other groups now.

Pretty boring threads at the moment eh?
Newman
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Posted on Wednesday, 09 February, 2005 - 12:07 pm:   

Have to admit that me and Danny trading insults does not make for particularly interesting reading. He's a curious chap. He surfaces every couple of weeks or so, either making a pedantic comment or having a moan about other people's posts - memo to self, don't bother to respond to him again.

BTW, Dave, were you pushing a bike up London Road on Monday at around 5pm?
BaggyDave (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Wednesday, 09 February, 2005 - 03:25 pm:   

Dave's at work (having not been ambushed on the Peckham canal path on the way in) but normal service will be resumed shortly. Well I've started now so I may as well continue. Like pickpockets there are people hanging round stores waiting for you to be distracted. But all my even posher badminton Bromley lot think London is full of people like this which is why they deserted the metropolis for the leafy suburbs. Most of us here are more enlightened.

In the good old days my good mate Atila the Stockbroker had a poem "Iranian Students from Hell" as at that time everything was blamed on them (by the Daily Mail set). I'm sure this can be updated to include other groups now.

Pretty boring threads at the moment eh?
seeformiles (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Thursday, 10 February, 2005 - 11:30 pm:   

I think the Sainsburys staff are great. Much friendlier than other supermarkets I've been to.
Lately I've even noticed the stock improving (although I don't want to speak too soon).
My favourite veggie sausages have suddenly reappeared on the shelves. Hoorah.
Fischer
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Posted on Saturday, 18 June, 2005 - 07:24 am:   

I shop at Dulwich Sainsburys right now. Whether I choose to shop at the expanded Forest Hill Sainsburys depends entirely on whether they start to sell Marmite Twiglets. Otherwise there will be just no point.
Brian
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Posted on Thursday, 23 June, 2005 - 01:56 pm:   

I will shop at Forest Hill Sainsburys because I can walk there. I think most of their customers prefer the relaxation of not driving
Hilltopgeneral
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Posted on Thursday, 23 June, 2005 - 02:41 pm:   

Aren't all Twiglets Marmite-y?
Brian
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Posted on Thursday, 23 June, 2005 - 03:42 pm:   

Try not to touch junk food
Fischer
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Posted on Saturday, 25 June, 2005 - 10:54 pm:   

Some Twiglets are Worcester Sauce flavoured. Nice, but not as nice as the Marmite ones. Twiglets are also not junk food, and are baked rather than fried.
Baggydave
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Posted on Wednesday, 09 August, 2006 - 10:41 am:   

This thread tailed off talking about twiglets, sums it all up.

Pleased to see that the good denizens of Upper Norwood are even sadder than us! See: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5246568.stm?ls
Seeformiles
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Posted on Wednesday, 09 August, 2006 - 12:41 pm:   

Blimey Baggdave I was about to post this myself but you got there first. Strange minds like alike.
Seeformiles
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Posted on Wednesday, 09 August, 2006 - 12:42 pm:   

sorry Baggydave - I'm typo-ing all over the place today.


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